Rate The Race: Talladega II

A lot less action (and I don't mean wrecks) than a typical Talladega race. Have to go with 6.
 
I can't believe some of the ratings on here. Y'all are entitled to yalls opinions. But some people just aren't watching the same races I feel like.

One person gave the race a 10 because there was no wreck.. lol

That race was not Talladega. Not even close. Dale Sr. would roll in his grave over today's pathetic display.
 
9 Best 37 car race this season!! Them gibbs boys should really be proud of themselves.
 
JBone88 said:
... Dale Sr. would roll in his grave over today's pathetic display.
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There are plenty of Ironhead fans here who will correct me if I'm wrong (again), but I recall reading that Sr. didn't actually like plate racing all that much.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
There are plenty of Ironhead fans here who will correct me if I'm wrong (again), but I recall reading that Sr. didn't actually like plate racing all that much.
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He didn't. But you can't tell me he would've appreciated what it's become in today's NASCAR
 
2. Essentially just follow the leader stuff with meaningless comings and goings but I was glad there were no big wrecks and watching the 78 blowup wasn't exactly tear inducing.
JBone88 said:
I can't believe some of the ratings on here. Y'all are entitled to yalls opinions. But some people just aren't watching the same races I feel like.

One person gave the race a 10 because there was no wreck.. lol

That race was not Talladega. Not even close. Dale Sr. would roll in his grave over today's pathetic display.
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I was confused by some of the race ratings when I joined the forum a couple of years ago but apparently the quality of the race is not all that important. Things like how much you like or dislike the driver that won are big as are how you felt, who you were with and how many times you farted for all I know.

I watched my Eagles win over the undefeated Vikings today and I liked it but it was a crap game. Sloppy play, turnovers, penalties.....it was brutal.....the game was probably 3 max.
 
1. Was just an awful race and proof of why this system needs to go. Instead of racing for the win most were just trying to not get wrecked and playing nice. JGR pretty much start and parked with the exception of Hamlin
 
1.

This race was pathetic. F1 race was indefinitely a better one.
 
I was impressed that the big one didn't happen (I wonder when the last time that happened). I was wondering how the two strategies was going to work (running up front and running in the back) but all strategies seemed to work today. The nature of plate racing has become the leader blocking. At other tracks the leader might get moved but that is too dangerous in plate racing.
 
10 since the 22 won.....

but couldn't believe the JGR cars today. What an embarrassment they were (other than the 11).
 
Charlie Spencer said:
When it was done in the past, the guys doing it would eventually attempt to get to the front late in the race.

This time, TV broadcast a conversation with the #18 team where they decided there was no reason to try advancing. The Gibbs boys apparently planned to stay there all the way through, with no intention of doing anything except protecting their Chase positions. I support their decision; they're in it for a championship. But the format is poorly designed when that has been demonstrated to be a successful strategy, not once but for three cars in the same race.
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Classic case of "don't hate the player, hate the game".
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Things like how much you like or dislike the driver that won are big as are how you felt, who you were with and how many times you farted for all I know.
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Been beatin' this drum forever. Brought this up to Jeff Gluck once as he was trying to qualify good racing and quantify the feelings of the fans. He wasn't having it.....and the beat goes on.
 
I have been somewhat of a proponent for the Chase. However, I have to admit that the Chase dynamics created complete **** for a race. JJ was non-existent because he didn't need to be. Harvick was racing for nothing. Most of all for me, this format had three of my five cars not racing at all. I think that the move to Race 2 of Round 2 will solve the problem. This was complete **** IMO. Terrible. 1.5....I give a 1 for cranking the engines.
 
JBone88 said:
Everybody drove like complete pansies except the 2 and the 22.
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I disagree with this. There were plenty of others trying to do what Kes did, but unable to do it. Kes drove an awesome race, totally imposed his will upon the field. The blown motor was a heart breaker. When Kes went down, the 22 was the best of the rest. I'll rate the race 7.5 for Keselowski's awesome display, and would have rated it higher if the 2 had won because he deserved it.
 
I'm easily entertained I guess. The race didn't have the outcome that I'd like to see but it kept my interest from start to finish. Personally, I don't know what the fans on here have to have to give them everything that they want in a race. Some kind of race utopia I guess.

I'm a fan of the restrictor plate races because to me, that restrictor plate is a huge equalizer. I like seeing all these teams having a shot at winning a race.
 
JBone88 said:
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Worst Talladega race ive ever watched and I've been watching NASCAR for 25 years.

Everybody drove like complete pansies except the 2 and the 22.

No passing for the lead. Single file, side drafting sand bagging **** fest
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The 24 was certainly not in pansy mode today. Kurt also drove a fine race. Biffle as well prior to the wreck. There were some guys mixing it up.
 
Revman said:
Been beatin' this drum forever. Brought this up to Jeff Gluck once as he was trying to qualify good racing and quantify the feelings of the fans. He wasn't having it.....and the beat goes on.
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I loved watching my Eagles beat the undefeated Vikings yesterday as I soaked up every second of it. However it was an awful game full of mistakes, miscues and sloppy play. The quality of a sporting event or Nascar race should have nothing to do with who wins or loses.
 
racer8 said:
He voiced his dislike for it several times except when he won, which was more than several times.
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Hey, I can cry all the way to the bank too. :D I'm good at cleaning up computer users' mistakes, but it's one of the aspects of my job that I don't particularly like.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm easily entertained I guess. The race didn't have the outcome that I'd like to see but it kept my interest from start to finish. Personally, I don't know what the fans on here have to have to give them everything that they want in a race. Some kind of race utopia I guess.

I'm a fan of the restrictor plate races because to me, that restrictor plate is a huge equalizer. I like seeing all these teams having a shot at winning a race.
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I think you will get your answer of what fans like to have in a race at Martinsville as it is the only track left that guarantees a good one. I am not a fan of plate races for the reason you mentioned as you know something is seriously wrong when Brian Scott can finish in second place.
 
Racer1930 said:
In fairness...they probably had a plan for a "late charge" if needed - but once Truex blew up and there were other issues....there was simply no need.
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I suspect if there had been multiple overtimes and other teams had to pit for fuel, the Gibbs cars may have stayed out and come to the front to help Denny. On the other hand, since everyone else would have taken at least two tires, they may have been toast.

We'll never know.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
... I'm a fan of the restrictor plate races because to me, that restrictor plate is a huge equalizer. I like seeing all these teams having a shot at winning a race.
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Skoalbandit33 said:
... I am not a fan of plate races for the reason you mentioned as you know something is seriously wrong when Brian Scott can finish in second place.
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Ditto. I don't want an equalizer, at least not in Cup. If someone wants to revive IROC, where the cars are intentionally prep'ed the same every week, great. I'll eat it up with a spoon. But don't intentionally handicap the cars for 11% of the season and try to sell it as an improvement. We all know why it's done, and it isn't to equalize the field. That's a side effect, like nausea.
 
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I am a Kenseth Fan and I listened to the after race interviews with Mat, Kyle and Carl, they stated the obvious and also stated how they hated having to race that way. How the four raced, adding 11 in there as the fourth, was all designed from the BS chase points game they have to race in, to me, a blind man can see that. With there plan they move on to the next round and I am glad for them. I hated the way they had to race, but, that is the business of the game.

Plus, Brad K gave a lesson in how to run a plate race and stay up front. It was really fun watching him use the side draft and move forward, pretty cool stuff. Too bad be blew up. Lack of passing and lead changes has all to do with the car package.

I never thought I would ever say this, but, Bring back the FOX and FS1 guys to the broadcast booth.:eek: They at least would occasionally STFU.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I think you will get your answer of what fans like to have in a race at Martinsville as it is the only track left that guarantees a good one. I am not a fan of plate races for the reason you mentioned as you know something is seriously wrong when Brian Scott can finish in second place.
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There will be the usual share of fans that harp on Martinsville's single groove, with the preferred inside line on restarts. That group usually gets pretty vocal. Me, I love the single inside line. Makes for very interesting restarts and races off of pit road.

Brain Scott ran a great race most all day long. You only heard about him at the end because they never really talked about him throughout the event. He ran the majority of the race in the front half of the field for hours on end. He did that because he made smart moves and had a car that was for the most part equal to the other seats out there.

All of those guys did a great job yesterday running that close. Hats off to each and every one of them. I can't imagine doing that at those types of speeds.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
There will be the usual share of fans that harp on Martinsville's single groove, with the preferred inside line on restarts. That group usually gets pretty vocal. Me, I love the single inside line. Makes for very interesting restarts and races off of pit road.

Brain Scott ran a great race most all day long. You only heard about him at the end because they never really talked about him throughout the event. He ran the majority of the race in the front half of the field for hours on end. He did that because he made smart moves and had a car that was for the most part equal to the other seats out there.

All of those guys did a great job yesterday running that close. Hats off to each and every one of them. I can't imagine doing that at those types of speeds.
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Spot on.
 
2 not enough passing. Buddy came up with a new game for nafcar. Its a spin off of the drinking game from the Bob Newhart show. Except you drink when you here" joe gibbs racing","jgr" "the 18-19-20-11-or 78 car" or "green flag back in the air" The only bright spot was when Jr. was in the booth. He looks weird with glasses, lol.
 
Pat said:
I give it a 9. I was out of my seat in front of the TV a lot. I didn't give it a 10 because not everyone was racing for the win. It should not be an elimination race. Make it the first race in a segment and there will be hard racing.
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It's not going to matter what position this race falls in during the Chase. It will always be an elimination race. We just may not realize it until the 3rd race in the segment is over. ;)
 
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Hell, NASCAR is liable to change the rules, again, before Da….. uh, “‘Toner” ‘n the season starts. No tellin’ what part the place’ll play in next year's championship cluster.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
It's not going to matter what position this race falls in during the Chase. It will always be an elimination race. We just may not realize it until the 3rd race in the segment is over. ;)
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I wasn't talking about the Chase overall. I was thinking about the segment. If it wasn't the last race of a segment, then I believe all the drivers still in this segment would try harder for the win.
 
R Clarence said:
Hell, NASCAR is liable to change the rules, again, before Da….. uh, “‘Toner” ‘n the season starts. No tellin’ what part the place’ll play in next year's championship cluster.
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Next year Talladega will be the second race in the second segment.
 
Pat said:
I wasn't talking about the Chase overall. I was thinking about the segment. If it wasn't the last race of a segment, then I believe all the drivers still in this segment would try harder for the win.
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I get what you're saying and I think that's the common view. I just don't think that it would be any different. I guess we'll all find out next season.
 
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AdoubleU24 said:
The 24 was certainly not in pansy mode today. Kurt also drove a fine race. Biffle as well prior to the wreck. There were some guys mixing it up.
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I'll give the 24 props. One of the few who had something to race for. Unfortunately nobody would work with him because they were content with running 16th.
 
JBone88 said:
I'll give the 24 props. One of the few who had something to race for. Unfortunately nobody would work with him because they were content with running 16th.
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According to the booth guys, nobody would work with him because he was pulling out of line at the wrong times. That whole experience thing, ya know.
 
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