NASCAR Paint Scheme Discussion

Black Vultures......

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ChexOrWrex said:
Is there a team that still actually paints the cars?
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Yeah I hate to answer this with such vague information but I know I just saw a picture of a 2017 car in the paint booth can't remember who though
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Is there a team that still actually paints the cars?
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Weren't all of Gordon's and now JR's Axalta cars painted?

I know Jimmie had a car one week last year that was painted. I don't think any of them paint regularly though.
 
aunty dive said:
Wrapping saves weight.

Laugh at that if you like.
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I cant remember if we had that discussion in this forum or I was on another.

But we figured out, with assistance from forum members who worked in the garages, that the difference in weight was moot.
 
Those cars will never see a race.
ChexOrWrex said:
I cant remember if we had that discussion in this forum or I was on another.

But we figured out, with assistance from forum members who worked in the garages, that the difference in weight was moot.
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How about labor saving?
 
Team Penske said:
Those cars will never see a race.

How about labor saving?
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From JTG Daughtry racing 2 years ago:

We actually paint the vast majority of our cars. Of the 36 races this season we will have wrapped our cars for about 10 races, the rest are painted. Wraps cost about $1400-$2000 per car installed or $2800-4000 per race plus a crash kit of another $500-700 (depending on vinyl supplier/installer prices).

Most of our paint schemes feature our custom blue and white cars, where we change the vinyl color of the pin striping and door numbers, most of the rest of the non-blue/white cars are wrapped. One exception being our Daytona 500 Kroger car which we painted.

Wrapping cars is much more expensive than painting. Most Cup teams have a sponsorship deal with the paint manufacturers that negate most of the costs associated with paint/supplies. Technically wrapped cars weigh about 2-3 lbs more than a painted car, that trend reverses if you don't completely strip the paint/bondo between touch-ups.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
From JTG Daughtry racing 2 years ago:

We actually paint the vast majority of our cars. Of the 36 races this season we will have wrapped our cars for about 10 races, the rest are painted. Wraps cost about $1400-$2000 per car installed or $2800-4000 per race plus a crash kit of another $500-700 (depending on vinyl supplier/installer prices).

Most of our paint schemes feature our custom blue and white cars, where we change the vinyl color of the pin striping and door numbers, most of the rest of the non-blue/white cars are wrapped. One exception being our Daytona 500 Kroger car which we painted.

Wrapping cars is much more expensive than painting. Most Cup teams have a sponsorship deal with the paint manufacturers that negate most of the costs associated with paint/supplies. Technically wrapped cars weigh about 2-3 lbs more than a painted car, that trend reverses if you don't completely strip the paint/bondo between touch-ups.
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I understand and to be truthful never understood why the wrap in the first place. It would come in handing if you had to repair a car at the track to fix a wall scraping.

My real comment is those cars shown, (48 and SHR) for 2017 will never race looking like that.
 
Same fella

Also, keep in mind that when the car is done with fabrication it still needs to go to the body shop to fill the seams and get a primer coat so the vinyl has a surface it can adhere to, if you wrap a bare metal car the vinyl will easily slough and pull away.

One way or another bondo, sealer and or paint is going on the car. The questions is do you just paint it and apply decals or paint it and then add a wrap over it... There really isn't one right answer, and that is one of the cool things about NASCAR. We have a very strict set of guidelines and freedom to make different decisions that fit within our own budgets.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Wow, crazy how bland and dated the SS body looks after you look at the Camrys above.

The new DeWalt scheme is the best they've had in years.
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Its been used for the past five years.

Looks like JTG has been looking at RPM's paint schemes closely with those damn swirls.
 
cheesepuffs said:
On an unrelated note, the 22 scheme is going to remain unchanged for 2017. Think about that. The Shell/Pennzoil scheme has been the same since Kurt started running with it in 2011. And the scheme has been adopted in the past couple years for Joey's other sponsors, and even sometimes Brad has the same design with part-time sponsors and their corresponding colors too. I never liked the design to begin with, and at this point it's like man, haven't they squeezed all the juice out of this fruit yet?
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The 22 is an ironic paint scheme with an old school vibe, and I love it. I for one hope it doesn't change for a long, long time. JMO.
 
LewTheShoe said:
The 22 is an ironic paint scheme with an old school vibe, and I love it. I for one hope it doesn't change for a long, long time. JMO.
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That's exactly what I don't like about it. It looks like it's from the 1930's. Looks out of place every weekend in 2017.
 
I wish the FedEx scheme had never deviated from the primarily white scheme that started with Leffler. That car looked good. I especially never understood black since FedEx literally does not use black for anything. At least the purple and orange makes sense.
 
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