How would you fix the All Star race?

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Even if JJ had not won the All Star race left a lot to desire. So are you happy with it? If not, how would you change it?
 
Make a crew chief lottery, but have the CC's still pull for their own team...so the cars would be set up wrong and awful to drive. That'd make a show :D
 
Move the race to a different venue (will never realistically happen, though). Charlotte's a historic track but the cars get strung out so quickly there at the speeds they're running.

Longer and fewer segments. Five segments, each no longer than twenty laps, takes any sort of flow out of the race.
 
I also think they should make pitting before the last segment optional. If they didn't have to pit the top 4-6 drivers probably stay out and rest would get a combo of 2 and 4 tires. Then there would be a mixture of no tires, 2 tires, and 4 tires with 10 to go. It would be a much better race.
 
the two things I would change would be the last pit, make it ten minutes for crews to work on the cars for the last segment, not a speed deal. Make the last segment more laps, 10 was not enough, and with the speed pit, crews couldn't adjust on the cars and some of them were pretty beat up, so there wasn't much racing going on. the other segments I thought were pretty good considering the slick tire and the big track..the dreaded aero raised it's ugly head.
 
I thought this was the best format they've ever had. There was a ton of intense racing and they fought for each position. I like that the pit crew played such a large part. The only thing I thought was sketchy was when they allowed them to change tires under the red flag. The guys that pitted under caution got screwed on that deal.
 
I really haven't thought this out entirely, but maybe we should start eliminating cars from the race with heat races, or maybe do A, B, C, and D races like the Knoxville Nationals.

Let the cream rise to the top in each heat race and transfer the top 5 to the main.
Leave the main a 10 lap shootout and invert the field.
I don't know, lot's of possibilities here. I'm just throwing stuff out there.
 
1. Stop trying to change it.
2. Every race cant be a thriller, the stars have to align.
3. It wasnt awful, just not a classic, it happens.
 
1. 20 lap first segment
2. Optional to stop or not. If you stop, you go to the rear.
3. 20 lap 2nd segment with bottom 5 cars eliminated at the end -- not counting any cars that have wrecked or left the track.
4. Optional to stop or not. If you stop you go to the rear.
5. 20 lap 3rd segment.
6. Mandatory 4-tire stop.
7. Starting position for 4th segment determined by how they leave pit road.
8. 20 lap 4th segment. At the end of the 4th segment, eliminate the bottom 3 cars(again not counting any wrecked, etc.)
9. 2 minute break before the last 10 laps.
10. Last segment starting position determined by how they finished 4th segment.

Greg said:
2. Every race cant be a thriller, the stars have to align.
3. It wasnt awful, just not a classic, it happens.
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True, but a girl can dream. :D
 
I haven't watched the All-Star for a few years now, mainly because it has become way too gimmicky. I'd like to see it more the way they did it back in the day: Drivers and teams that have won since the previous year's Daytona 500 get in as well as all past champions, just the winner of the Showdown transfers over, then 3 segments of 40, 40, and 10 laps with an inversion of some sort after the first segment.
 
If they want a better show for the final segment, make the teams save the tires they take off after the first 20 laps and have them have to put them back on for the final 10 laps :D
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with it.. Just change the venue every year. The All Star race is the best all star event of any sport AINEC
 
FenderBumper said:
No matter what we come up with, people will bitch and say nascar knows bestest what we should enjoy. :rolleyes:
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Matthew2470 said:
No matter what NASCAR does, people will bitch incessantly and think they can come up with a better solution.
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Absolutely. NASCAR is between a rock and hard place. The fans will never be satisfied. :)
 
Keep qualifying like they did it this year but have two long segments with 1 mandatory pit stop and have a lottery system to set the field for the second segment with some type of positional credit incentive from the finish position in the first segment.
 
BobbyFord said:
Keep qualifying like they did it this year but have two long segments with 1 mandatory pit stop and have a lottery system to set the field for the second segment with some type of positional credit incentive from the finish position in the first segment.
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So you want things to be even MORE confusing?
 
TexasRaceLady said:
1. 20 lap first segment
2. Optional to stop or not. If you stop, you go to the rear.
3. 20 lap 2nd segment with bottom 5 cars eliminated at the end -- not counting any cars that have wrecked or left the track.
4. Optional to stop or not. If you stop you go to the rear.
5. 20 lap 3rd segment.
6. Mandatory 4-tire stop.
7. Starting position for 4th segment determined by how they leave pit road.
8. 20 lap 4th segment. At the end of the 4th segment, eliminate the bottom 3 cars(again not counting any wrecked, etc.)
9. 2 minute break before the last 10 laps.
10. Last segment starting position determined by how they finished 4th segment.
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FenderBumper said:
Lose the segments, move it to a short track and have goodyear supply a super soft, super grippy tire that wears out after 15 laps of hard driving.
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I would be satisfied with either one of these with the changes I made in FBs suggestion.
 
BobbyFord said:
Keep qualifying like they did it this year but have two long segments with 1 mandatory pit stop and have a lottery system to set the field for the second segment with some type of positional credit incentive from the finish position in the first segment.
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do the drivers purchase their lottery tickets before or after the pit stop?;)
 
Johali said:
I would be satisfied with either one of these with the changes I made in FBs suggestion.
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NASCAR ad Goodyear would never bring a super soft tire to a high speed track. It's too dangerous with the heavy and fast cars.
 
FenderBumper said:
NASCAR ad Goodyear would never bring a super soft tire to a high speed track. It's too dangerous with the heavy and fast cars.
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That's up to the drivers and CCs to compensate, would be damned interesting though. :D
 
TexasRaceLady said:
1. 20 lap first segment
2. Optional to stop or not. If you stop, you go to the rear.
3. 20 lap 2nd segment with bottom 5 cars eliminated at the end -- not counting any cars that have wrecked or left the track.
4. Optional to stop or not. If you stop you go to the rear.
5. 20 lap 3rd segment.
6. Mandatory 4-tire stop.
7. Starting position for 4th segment determined by how they leave pit road.
8. 20 lap 4th segment. At the end of the 4th segment, eliminate the bottom 3 cars(again not counting any wrecked, etc.)
9. 2 minute break before the last 10 laps.
10. Last segment starting position determined by how they finished 4th segment.



True, but a girl can dream. :D
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will need extra cameras to watch pit reporters scrambling for interviews. I like it:)
 
I thought it was a great race, but if I wanted to see any changes it would be to make all the segments 20 laps so they had a little more time to overcome a bad pit stop on the last segment. It does kind of suck to watch one team dominate the whole race and then lose just because of one bad pit stop. It's to bad that some fans couldn't enjoy it...but I loved it and I can't wait until next year.
 
My idea -- move it to Bristol. Make there be 5 40 lap segments. Each car lines up with average finish BUT where they are now effects them as well (not sure how that would be done). Winners in past year, winners of ASR in past 10 years, plus top 2 from showdown -- no fan vote or past champions provisional. In addition, one random draw from people not in ASR not only get in but get a top quality ride. At the end of the first segment, bottom 1 running car gets eliminated. At the end of 2/3/4 bottom 2 cars get the ax.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
Absolutely. NASCAR is between a rock and hard place. The fans will never be satisfied. :)
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I'm pretty much done with the 1.5 mile cup racing. The banging and bumping and raw emotions are what made nascar racing different from all the rest, but the formula changed and it's much like the other series. I'm finding it harder and harder to get excited by cup racing this year. It's strange that the series that makes the least money provides the best racing.
 
FenderBumper said:
I'm pretty much done with the 1.5 mile cup racing. The banging and bumping and raw emotions are what made nascar racing different from all the rest, but the formula changed and it's much like the other series. I'm finding it harder and harder to get excited by cup racing this year. It's strange that the series that makes the least money provides the best racing.
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I'm not, they have a hard tire and a slick track next week. Despite what the media will come up with, a hard tire and a slick track means to me, single file racing, with caution restarts, pit row wins and screw ups, tire strategy, will be the areas where most of the action will be. Boring for some, but I like a good chess match.
 
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