Where's today's hate the Chase thread?

Reck said:
Announced? Did you also made a press conference saying how you used to hate everything NASCAR did less than 2 years ago and now via some miracle, they cant do no wrong?

You shouldn't be challenging people to look up posts from you when you know the drivel you post all the time. It was easy making you look like a fool. Didn't even try.

Explain why the 2013 chase is worse than the 2014 chase.

While you're at it, please make sure to answer the questions I asked in my previous post.

Nice try deflecting though.
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It's summed up in one of the posts YOU quoted. If we're going to have a "playoff", let's have a playoff. That's what we now have. Been saying that for years.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
It's summed up in one of the posts YOU quoted. If we're going to have a "playoff", let's have a playoff. That's what we now have. Been saying that for years.
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No, that is incorrect.

We've had a "playoff" since 2004.

I guess NASCAR took a hiatus from 2004-2013 and we just dreamt alot of nonsense all this time. :(

I know what you're trying to compare this ****t show with, NFL..

But not even they are dumb enough to implement a system where you have more than 2 teams facing each other on a given weekend. So even your poor comparison doesn't match up.

If you want a playoff that's fair to its participants, get those 27 extra cars off the track and send them home. Let them race each other points for points, no gimmick video game resets, just race.

Racing=doesn't need a playoff system. Never has, never will.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Put the popcorn away, Bobby. I don't engage in urination festivals with trolls.
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Also, I'm waiting for your answers. Dont have them? Just say so.

Everyone here knows you're full of ****t. Fact!
 
Always make sure you get a utility chase for each item you plan to run UG. before laying concrete.
 
The feelings amongst the NASCAR brass about this chase format are pretty good right now. Homestead went according to plan, with a multi-race winner winning at Homestead to take the title. But wait until a couple of years where it doesn't go so well. If we see a couple years where the Championship Four finish 8th, 13th, 22nd, and 34th at Homestead, or if we have a winless champion or a champion who would have finished in the teens in points, we'll probably see a revamp. The last chase was seemingly the best thing ever after the Tony vs. Carl show in 2011. When the '12 and '13 chases weren't as tight, away it went.
 
ToyYoda said:
The feelings amongst the NASCAR brass about this chase format are pretty good right now. Homestead went according to plan, with a multi-race winner winning at Homestead to take the title. But wait until a couple of years where it doesn't go so well. If we see a couple years where the Championship Four finish 8th, 13th, 22nd, and 34th at Homestead, or if we have a winless champion or a champion who would have finished in the teens in points, we'll probably see a revamp. The last chase was seemingly the best thing ever after the Tony vs. Carl show in 2011. When the '12 and '13 chases weren't as tight, away it went.
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Even though Tony and Carl had the tightest Championship ever...... in my opinion, none will ever rival the '92 Cup.
 
Team Penske said:
Go back to sleep C_Numb, you'll know when I am being mean. I suggest you put me on ignore because obviously
you don't understand anything I say. Either that or you are really trying to start something.
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My post was sarcasm just like yours … like a empty A/C system get your sense of humor recharged … :sarcasm:

:XXROFL:
 
ToyYoda said:
The feelings amongst the NASCAR brass about this chase format are pretty good right now. Homestead went according to plan, with a multi-race winner winning at Homestead to take the title. But wait until a couple of years where it doesn't go so well. If we see a couple years where the Championship Four finish 8th, 13th, 22nd, and 34th at Homestead, or if we have a winless champion or a champion who would have finished in the teens in points, we'll probably see a revamp. The last chase was seemingly the best thing ever after the Tony vs. Carl show in 2011. When the '12 and '13 chases weren't as tight, away it went.
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The busch series & truck series points have been very close several times in the last 10 years with no chase :idunno:
 
DUN24 said:
You're joking right? This is YOUR troll thread. You ARE the troll right now. Am I missing something?
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C_Numb said:
My post was sarcasm just like yours … like a empty A/C system get your sense of humor recharged … :sarcasm:

:XXROFL:
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I didn't see the :sarcasm:, sorry about that. I am running short on Viagra to keep my eyes open. :laugh:
 
I love racing but some more than others. I don't hate the chase but I would like to see a year long champion and chase champion.
That way you have your real fans and Brians fans get a champion. :)
 
Reck said:
Also, I'm waiting for your answers. Dont have them? Just say so.

Everyone here knows you're full of ****t. Fact!
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I'll say what I said in The Podium. People are allowed to hate one points system and like another. See, you all love the old points system and hate the playoff. I love the playoff and hate the old Chase format. There's really no difference. But my opinion differs from yours, so, instead of debating the merits of my opinion, you and Chex have to go dig up posts from two years ago (which aren't actually relevant to the discussion at hand since the playoff didn't exist two years ago) to try to discredit me instead.

Unlike you guys, I have an open mind. Watching the entire 2014 season, my open mind saw the best racing I've ever seen in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series since I started watching. My open mind saw an excellent championship battle. My open mind saw a regular season where drivers were fighting and clawing for wins instead of riding around having "a good points day". My open mind saw drivers pissed off because they didn't win and may have missed an opportunity to be in the postseason. My open mind saw drivers pushing it a little harder, trying to get a little bit more. The racing's better than it has been in years, even at the brobdingnagians, and the new playoff is the reason for it. So, because of that, my open mind likes NASCAR's playoffs.

By the way, how's the internet working back in 2003?
 
You youngsters like this format because you don't know what good racing is.
The good racing was happening when most of you were ****tting your pampers.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I'll say what I said in The Podium. People are allowed to hate one points system and like another. See, you all love the old points system and hate the playoff. I love the playoff and hate the old Chase format. There's really no difference. But my opinion differs from yours, so, instead of debating the merits of my opinion, you and Chex have to go dig up posts from two years ago (which aren't actually relevant to the discussion at hand since the playoff didn't exist two years ago) to try to discredit me instead.

Unlike you guys, I have an open mind. Watching the entire 2014 season, my open mind saw the best racing I've ever seen in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series since I started watching. My open mind saw an excellent championship battle. My open mind saw a regular season where drivers were fighting and clawing for wins instead of riding around having "a good points day". My open mind saw drivers pissed off because they didn't win and may have missed an opportunity to be in the postseason. My open mind saw drivers pushing it a little harder, trying to get a little bit more. The racing's better than it has been in years, even at the brobdingnagians, and the new playoff is the reason for it. So, because of that, my open mind likes NASCAR's playoffs.

By the way, how's the internet working back in 2003?
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I would say we all have different tastes in one thing or another and I am quite comfortable with your reasons for liking this format.
I sure liked the racing better myself but was bummed when Brad got eliminated, that's life.

I think everyone learned something this year and one lesson was "just race for points until the last race then win it." because multiple wins meant ****.
 
I've changed my opinion on the new format somewhat. I hated it for most of last season and I'm still not head over heels in love with it, but it did make for some good racing and some tense moments late in the year. If NASCAR cleans up some of the sloppy bits with the chase rules, I think it could be good.
 
Team Penske said:
I think everyone learned something this year and one lesson was "just race for points until the last race then win it." because multiple wins meant sh!t.
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Racing for points means ****. You can't top-five your way to a championship.

Yeah, I know. Ryan Newman. Well, let's not forget how hard Newman raced either. If everyone thinks you can just top-10 your way through the Chase and starts being Conservative in the new Chase, it's just going to pay off even more for the drivers who race for wins.

I hardly saw any points racing in 2014 and that's a good thing. The old Chase was especially bad because drivers no longer took risks. Better to take the top-five or top-10 or top-15 than it is to go for the win because you might wreck if you drive it a little harder going for the win. Everyone was more afraid of losing points on the track than gaining them. And, yeah, one bad run can hurt you in the new Chase. But, as Kevin Harvick proved, you win a race and that bad run no longer matters. His wreck at Martinsville no longer mattered once he won at Phoenix. As for Jeff Gordon not being in the final four because of Texas,
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He had two other opportunities to win and couldn't get it done.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I'll say what I said in The Podium. People are allowed to hate one points system and like another. See, you all love the old points system and hate the playoff. I love the playoff and hate the old Chase format. There's really no difference. But my opinion differs from yours, so, instead of debating the merits of my opinion, you and Chex have to go dig up posts from two years ago (which aren't actually relevant to the discussion at hand since the playoff didn't exist two years ago) to try to discredit me instead.

Unlike you guys, I have an open mind. Watching the entire 2014 season, my open mind saw the best racing I've ever seen in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series since I started watching. My open mind saw an excellent championship battle. My open mind saw a regular season where drivers were fighting and clawing for wins instead of riding around having "a good points day". My open mind saw drivers pissed off because they didn't win and may have missed an opportunity to be in the postseason. My open mind saw drivers pushing it a little harder, trying to get a little bit more. The racing's better than it has been in years, even at the brobdingnagians, and the new playoff is the reason for it. So, because of that, my open mind likes NASCAR's playoffs.

By the way, how's the internet working back in 2003?
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I mentioned in another thread that talking about talking points is great until personal punches are made. Example A.

Just because people dont like the chase does not mean they have closed minds. Thats a ridiculous insult. Most of the non-chasers agree that the on track product is great, but the way to crown a champion is bogus. That is their, and my own, opinion. We are allowed to have it without being called brainless or closed minded.

Can we get back to racing without personal jabs? Thanks.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I mentioned in another thread that talking about talking points is great until personal punches are made. Example A.

Just because people dont like the chase does not mean they have closed minds. Thats a ridiculous insult. Most of the non-chasers agree that the on track product is great, but the way to crown a champion is bogus. That is their, and my own, opinion. We are allowed to have it without being called brainless or closed minded.
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So is the way a champion is crowned in baseball. The Giants and Royals weren't the two best teams in baseball -- the Angels, Orioles and Nationals were. In fact, under the system that existed a few years ago, I don't believe either the San Francisco Giants or the Kansas City Royals would have been in Postseason. I don't see baseball fans questioning the legitimacy of the sport. I didn't see hundreds of tweets after the World Series claiming the Baltimore Orioles were the real MLB Champions. I didn't go in the baseball thread and cry about how the Orioles are the real champions because we didn't use to have a Wild Card Playoff or whatever else. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series under the system that is in place and are the legitimate champions.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
So is the way a champion is crowned in baseball. The Giants and Royals weren't the two best teams in baseball -- the Angels, Orioles and Nationals were. In fact, under the system that existed a few years ago, I don't believe either the San Francisco Giants or the Kansas City Royals would have been in Postseason. I don't see baseball fans questioning the legitimacy of the sport. I didn't see hundreds of tweets after the World Series claiming the Baltimore Orioles were the real MLB Champions. I didn't go in the baseball thread and cry about how the Orioles are the real champions because we didn't use to have a Wild Card Playoff or whatever else. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series under the system that is in place and are the legitimate champions.
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I hate baseball :XXROFL:

Im in agreeance with the idea that racing cant be realistically compared to stick n ball sports for the several reasons listed in previous threads.
 
ToyYoda said:
I've changed my opinion on the new format somewhat. I hated it for most of last season and I'm still not head over heels in love with it, but it did make for some good racing and some tense moments late in the year. If NASCAR cleans up some of the sloppy bits with the chase rules, I think it could be good.
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Same. I can think of about three things I would like to see tweaked that would make me genuinely like it, but for the time being I can at least tolerate it.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Same. I can think of about three things I would like to see tweaked that would make me genuinely like it, but for the time being I can at least tolerate it.
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The only thing I'd eliminate is the elimination rounds, save for the elimination rounds going into Homestead. I gotta admit, four drivers going into Homestead with a chance to win the Championship did produce some good racing.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I hate baseball :XXROFL:

Im in agreeance with the idea that racing cant be realistically compared to stick n ball sports for the several reasons listed in previous threads.
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I have to agree here, the comparisons of the chase to the stick and ball playoffs have absolutely zero merit. And every time a non-#1 seed wins a championship in another sport, someone always brings it up. Playoffs are a necessity in "head-to-head" sports, but in NASCAR everybody races everybody else on the same tracks every week. I'm not saying that an elimination style playoff in NASCAR is a bad thing, but it's being done out of gimmickry rather than necessity.
 
SpeedPagan said:
The only thing I'd eliminate is the elimination rounds, save for the elimination rounds going into Homestead. I gotta admit, four drivers going into Homestead with a chance to win the Championship did produce some good racing.
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I'd rather see the initial field start at 12 and then go 9-6-3, but I get that it would take away the similarity to the NCAA Tournament. It would place a greater premium on the regular season though.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I'd rather see the initial field start at 12 and then go 9-6-3, but I get that it would take away the similarity to the NCAA Tournament. It would place a greater premium on the regular season though.
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How would it place a greater premium on the regular season?
 
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