The term 'stick and ball sports' is commonly understood as shorthand to mean football, baseball, basketball, hockey, maybe soccer. The phrase is commonly used to differentiate them from motorsports more due to them being team sports vs. individuals than to the equipment used.Golf and tennis are both individual sports that use sticks and balls.
Stick n Ball solved a problem, Nascar created one. What is even more outrageous is that they think all of the fans dislike about it is good for business. Oh, look they are talking about us...good deal.
I don't have any problem getting my points across. You will have to deal with it I'm afraid. Nascar is a team sport also. They don't use stick n balls.
Sports forums are full of inappropriate phrases and unclear contexts that may require explanations.
The phrase has been used by multiple posters on different forums for years, and in conversations predating the Internet. SOI didn't invent it last month.
You may want to avoid the Internet, or develop some eCalluses (tm).
You will have to deal with it I'm afraid. Many besides me use that term to describe the difference, some in the larger media areas. It won't work to try to move the goalposts either.
And we're back to another example of what some would like (including me) vs. what's likely.
agreed. I appreciate the fan opinions on it as well as Stand On It's perspective and Naitch's perspective but frankly unless the TV networks come to NASCAR and say "We want a full season Championship", it isnt ever changing.
the ones I've seen are "Well Big 4 League does it like this" to which every time my retort has well Formula 1 and Indy Car use a full season format that are popular with their respective fan bases.
Who views the sport? Who watches the commercials? If you have a large group of fans who don't like the format, unless you have your head stuck up your ass you change it. The cold hard facts are the ratings don't increase like stick n ball do for the playoffs. Hell some basketball ratings are saved by having playoffs. Nothing like that is happening here. Most fans it appears are watching not for the damn playoffs but because they like racing and the hysterical clown show they put on is more of a distraction to most that are watching than an asset that is drawing anybody in.
Agreed, if enough fans stop watching during the playoffs maybe it'll change. I just wouldnt hold my breath.
If viewership continues to be flat during the playoffs is my point. I don't think it needs to be lessened, but it couldn't hurt if it did. Holding your breath is your deal not mine lol. I think a change is needed. Less insanity and gobbly gook, more about racing. Simple is better.
Then who gives three ****s? They are watching.
That's debatable. It is hard to concentrate on the race over the B.S. of the gerbils, the graphics you don't care to look at and their endless fake drama of the ever present "cut line" car(s). It's late in the season, we have been here for all of them, don't be B.S ing us with this nonsense. We know who really should be winning and fighting for a championship before you completely wiped the season off the map with "playoff points".
If we're watching anyway, why bother with all the complications?
If they are watching, why screw with it?
One reason is that the networks are aware of and instead of looking at the flat ratings curve for years of the playoffs, they have decided to double down with even more of the nonsense with "BrACKETS". C'mon Nascar fans lets dribble yee haw. Another network has a gimmick for you guys.
I think it already has. They sold out to a much higher bidder, 7 years, with Prime for the money, can't blame them, but they lost viewership all 5 races. How is TNT going to fare? The gamble paid them more money, but will they get their viewership back? This whole playoff deal isn't doing what they hoped it would do.
They haven't started yet. Or did you get that time machine finished?
Ahhhh MOU. Got it.
Are you watching?
Despite, not because.
Big difference.
Do you think anybody cares? You are watching.