what if Ford kept the Thunderbird

ToyYoda said:
I think the '71-'76 T-Bird was actually a little bigger than the Cougar.
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You're right 'n I shoulda known better.

My mother had a '78 Grand Mark I borrowed for a couple football trips to Washington 'n Baltimore. Couldn’t fit three ‘n me in the F-150 F-100 I had at the time.

The car spoiled me for cruise control. Got home from the first trip, bought an aftermarket CC unit from Montgomery Ward's 'n put it on the pick up.
 
Acs said:
If you want cool cars watch the xFinity series. Those are real performance cars that people aspire to own. Why the cup and xfinity series don't swap cars is beyond me, the Mustang and Camaro are true halo cars and the big 3 manufacturers have pushed for them in cup anyways. Did BF get drunk that day and push the wrong button to send them to the wrong series?
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Speak for yourself, I have no desire to own a Mustang/Camaro/Challenger
 
I've found it a bit odd that Chevy continues to use a car in NASCAR that almost no one can buy. I know the "win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" axiom is outdated, but I think it still matters to some people. The first car I bought was an Impala partially because it was what they raced in NASCAR.
 
29-4 said:
I've found it a bit odd that Chevy continues to use a car in NASCAR that almost no one can buy. I know the "win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" axiom is outdated, but I think it still matters to some people. The first car I bought was an Impala partially because it was what they raced in NASCAR.
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I wondered about that myself before the site crash. I was told the SS is more common than I thought.

Either way, isn't the SS going away?
 
2 Sweet said:
The Thunderbird was a great looking car and an even better looking race car. Unfortunately, full size rear wheel drive cars started losing popularity at a dramatic rate in the 90s. The Taurus never looked right to me, but I think the Fusion makes a nice looking race car.

After killing off the T-Bird, they reintroduced a new T-Bird a few years later as a two seater retro-styled sports car with a Jaguar engine. It was a pretty big flop.
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The engine in the new t-bird of the early 2000s was the same engine that was in the Lincoln LS, I know this because I was a member of the Lincoln LS and T-bird clubs because I owned a Lincoln LS. I got rid of it because it sucked high test gas like there was no tomorrow.
 
29-4 said:
I've found it a bit odd that Chevy continues to use a car in NASCAR that almost no one can buy. I know the "win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" axiom is outdated, but I think it still matters to some people. The first car I bought was an Impala partially because it was what they raced in NASCAR.
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I can't ever recall purchasing any products due to an affiliation with Nascar as I have always gone with what works best for me. Just recently I did something I had never contemplated before and stop using products that have an affiliation with the 18 car as due to Shrub's douchery. No Mars/M&M products but I will still use Bounty paper products until I find something else I like. No more M&M's, Wrigleys gum, lifesavers or temptation treats for my cats lol. Last week I needed a battery for one of my vehicles and Interstate was a choice but I went with an AC Delco for obvious reasons.

I am not a zealot about not using products that sponsor Shrub but if I need something and a brand exists that is suitable that doesn't sponsor the douche I will buy it instead.
 
Team Penske said:
The SS is NOT an American car, it is made in Australia
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The SS is a Holden Monaro exported from OZ but IDK what the future of the car is as I was reading some time back that Holden will cease the production of cars in Australia and all Holden's will be re-badged imports. Ford either has ceased production of vehicles in Australia or will do so soon.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I can't ever recall purchasing any products due to an affiliation with Nascar as I have always gone with what works best for me. Just recently I did something I had never contemplated before and stop using products that have an affiliation with the 18 car as due to Shrub's douchery. No Mars/M&M products but I will still use Bounty paper products until I find something else I like. No more M&M's, Wrigleys gum, lifesavers or temptation treats for my cats lol. Last week I needed a battery for one of my vehicles and Interstate was a choice but I went with an AC Delco for obvious reasons.

I am not a zealot about not using products that sponsor Shrub but if I need something and a brand exists that is suitable that doesn't sponsor the douche I will buy it instead.
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Proving that sponsorship and advertising in NASCAR works very well ... in forward or reverse.

Further proves that you are but a sheep in the flock. :D
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
The SS is a Holden Monaro exported from OZ but IDK what the future of the car is as I was reading some time back that Holden will cease the production of cars in Australia and all Holden's will be re-badged imports. Ford either has ceased production of vehicles in Australia or will do so soon.
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2017 will be the last year for the SS.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I can't ever recall purchasing any products due to an affiliation with Nascar as I have always gone with what works best for me. ...
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I use NASCAR sponsorship as a tie breaker. If I've narrowed my options down to a couple of choices and one of them is a sponsor, I'll buy that one. But the larger the impact on my wallet, the less it influences my decision. I'd never limit my choices regarding a $30,000+ decision like a car simply to Camrys, SSs, and Fusions.
 
The news/entertainment chicky-babe on local radio is reporting BMS sold 545,000 beers during the UT win Saturday. Wonder if the best seller was Ford or Chevrolet.
 
aunty dive said:
Proving that sponsorship and advertising in NASCAR works very well ... in forward or reverse.

Further proves that you are but a sheep in the flock. :D
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Somehow I think a marketing or ad exec would see it differently as they don't normally advertise products in order to have people stop using them.
 
R Clarence said:
The news/entertainment chicky-babe on local radio is reporting BMS sold 545,000 beers during the UT win Saturday. Wonder if the best seller was Ford or Chevrolet.
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I wonder how many of those beer drinkers turned up their noses at Toyotas because they only buy American beer.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I use NASCAR sponsorship as a tie breaker. If I've narrowed my options down to a couple of choices and one of them is a sponsor, I'll buy that one. But the larger the impact on my wallet, the less it influences my decision. I'd never limit my choices regarding a $30,000+ decision like a car simply to Camrys, SSs, and Fusions.
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IDK many of the sponsors on the cars as it just doesn't stick with me as in years past. When I think of the #28 I think of Texaco-Havoline or Tide when recalling the #17. #11 conjures up images of Budweiser and #52 of Alka Seltzer and #26 is the green Quaker State car.

These days I couldn't tell you who the sponsors are of cars like Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Austin Dillon, Kevin Harvick, Kasey Kahne, Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse, Chase Elliott or Ryan Blaney and there are oodles more IDK.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I wonder how many of those beer drinkers turned up their noses at Toyotas because they only buy American beer.
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I am guessing people were not allowed to bring personal care packages into BMS for the big game lol.
 
ToyYoda said:
I think the '71-'76 T-Bird was actually a little bigger than the Cougar. The Cougar was basically Mercury's version of the Torino Elite, the T-Bird was about the same size as a Lincoln Continental.
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Correct.
 
The last of the T-Birds was the same chassis as the Cougar and the Mark VIII.
Bird was selling about 80,000 units per year, very respectable number, add 30,000 Cougars and it is a very good run.
Ford killed it off to plan on building maybe 30,000 2 seat birds, And would have to start from scratch.\They didn't make a dime on the deal and
lost a great selling, much loved Bird/
Stupid Management (Jack Nassar).
 
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