NASCAR post 2024- The view from Wall Street

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Interesting analysis from a shareholder/market timing perspective about ISCA (International Speedway Corp.):


Post-2024

The core problem here is that NASCAR is losing popularity. I have some concerns about management and capital allocation, admittedly, but even some of those issues stem from management's response to that problem. NASCAR attendance over the past six years probably is down by 35% or so, given figures at ISCA and TRK (which operate all but three NASCAR tracks). Attendance for baseball - hardly a sport that seems cutting edge, or growing in popularity - is basically flat over the same period. The NBA set an attendance record last year, and while there were concerns about NFL football interest this year, it remains the dominant sport in the U.S.

So you can't blame declining attendance on the economy, or other cyclical factors. There might be an argument that NASCAR's fan base - which tends more towards being white and Southern - as a whole might have lagged the economic recovery coming out of the financial crisis. At this point, however, that argument is moot. There are other factors relating to attendance specifically - high-def TVs, demographic changes, the ability to follow races online, etc. - but underlying that is a clear downward move in fan interest.

That's a huge problem for ISCA. There are some opportunities to utilize the tracks for non-racing events: ISC holds concerts, as does Dover Motorsports (NYSE:DVD) at its sole track in Delaware. Speedway held a college football game in August, which was a success, and plans to host additional games in the future. But in terms of modeling future cash flow for ISCA, the declining interest in NASCAR is a huge problem - because it impacts not only attendance but the next broadcast deal.
And at this point, it's quite simply impossible to argue that NASCAR's deal will be anything like its current one. The sport's timing was absolutely impeccable: Both Fox (NASDAQ:FOXA) and NBC (a unit of Comcast (NASDAQ:CMCSA)) were rolling out challengers to Disney's (NYSE:DIS) ESPN. Sports media rights prices were at a peak, driven by the belief that live programming was the key way to avoid ad pressure from DVRs. NASCAR took advantage: Annual revenue from broadcasters increased 46% in the new deal, disclosed in late 2013 - despite the fact that ratings and attendance already were falling.

Is there any way to model a similar deal in 2025, barring a massive unforeseen reversal in NASCAR interest? Both Fox Sports 1 and NBC Sports Network have disappointed; ESPN itself is hemorrhaging subscribers. NASCAR ratings have tumbled even further this year, with multiple record lows. It's impossible to predict what the media landscape will look like in 2023 - it may well be a Comcast-owned Netflix (NASDAQ:NFLX) negotiating against Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) for the broadcast rights.

But from an intuitive standpoint, literally every trend supports the hypothesis that NASCAR's next deal will be smaller than its current one. Ratings already are trending downward. The demand simply won't be the same, given that rights holders cannot monetize the rights to the same extent they projected they could just a few years ago. NASCAR maybe could create its own online network, a la World Wrestling Entertainment (NYSE:WWE), but at the end of the day, it's pretty hard to monetize audiences that aren't watching.

That's why I thought the disclosure in Q4 of a step down in corporate sponsorship revenue was important. NASCAR, and ISCA, are receiving less revenue from Monster than they did from Sprint. That's what happens when the product becomes less desirable. And that deal is a precursor to the negotiations that will happen next decade.

The larger issue is that I don't see much chance of NASCAR's popularity rebounding. The sport has faced a steady exodus of stars of late, with Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart retiring, along with the surprise departure of Carl Edwards this year. The new racing format announced this year seems like a mess, and appears to have generated quite a bit of criticism, at least from a cursory spin around Twitter (NYSE:TWTR), comment sections, and my local bar.

Under the new scoring system, races will have three stages, and drivers will have two different categories of season-long points (Championship Points and Playoff Points). The Chase For The Cup has been taken out, replaced by a 16-driver playoff. And not a single fan seems to really understand exactly how the system will, or should, work.

Rather, the move seems another example of what core fans see as NASCAR "fixing it until it's broke." NASCAR officials have argued that the breaks between stages provide natural opportunities for commercials - instead of skipping live racing - and fulfill the demand for shorter events. But the races themselves remain three-hours-plus - despite many calls to shorten them - and the confusion of two different point systems, in particular, seems likely to turn off some casual fans.

But the move itself also is a tacit admission that the sport has real problems - there really is no modern precedent in U.S. sports for the complete overhaul of the scoring system. And it's part of a long series of changes - restrictor plates, the removal of anything 'stock' from stock cars, Car of Tomorrow, the Chase, etc., etc., - that haven't brought in casual fans and have alienated hardcore fans.

Again, NASCAR is in decline - there's simply no two ways about it at this point. And that matters for ISCA stock.

Management Concerns

Even with the pressure on the sport, there's a case that there's enough to protect downside in the low $30s. ISCA has a ton of real estate, after all. Its balance sheet is solid - it actually has almost $1 million in net cash coming out of Q4. The TV contract alone probably supports something like $12-14 per share in fair value over the next eight years. In the worst-case scenario where NASCAR plummets, ISCA still has its real estate, totaling over 13,000 acres. A development near the Daytona track, called ONE DAYTONA, should add ~$9 million in EBITDA a year, and ISC may have similar opportunities elsewhere to drive value from those assets.

The problem is that management is not running the business for the benefit of ISCA shareholders. The France family is going to focus on NASCAR first, and shareholders second, as seen by the $400 million spent at Daytona, for an annual $15 million EBITDA return. Morally, that's probably OK; NASCAR is in the France family's blood, and they will protect the sport first and foremost.

But that also means that expecting any real change in corporate behavior in the long term is exceedingly optimistic. ISCA is not going to close unprofitable tracks or run sale-leasebacks or sell itself to private equity. And that blocks some of the theoretical structural changes that could limit long-term downside.

The issue in the near term is that ISC remains a true believer in NASCAR, which might limit its ability to take more aggressive measures relative to attendance declines. To be fair, the company did pull thousands of seats, which was an admission that demand for those seats was never going to return. But the endless optimism from management seemed to reach a ridiculous pitch on the Q4 call, and should take away any idea that ISC has a handle on its admission revenue problems.

CEO Lesa France Kennedy said in her opening remarks that "we are optimistic we will see a resurgence in consumer demand and increasing admissions revenue" in 2017. President John Saunders said in his remarks that "our focused consumer marketing initiatives have proven successful in recent years," while arguing that the 2017 goal was to grow admissions revenue. That's been the goal for eight years - other than FY15 (barely), ISC hasn't come close.

On the Q2 call, Saunders said ISCA needed better racing. After NASCAR had a pretty strong summer, he said on the Q3 call that the sport needed casual fans and "millennial strategies." Now, the company appears simply to need to do what it's done so far - even though that hasn't worked. And after all that, CFO Greg Motto admitted in the Q&A that the midpoint of full-year guidance implied continued decreases in admissions revenue - which essentially contradicted the sunshine from the CEO and President earlier on the call.

Again, I wouldn't lay the blame for attendance declines at the feet of management. But at the same time, there appears a rather stunning disconnect between how management perceives the sport - and thus the business - and how NASCAR actually is faring. Saunders on the Q4 call said the impact of the retirement of Jeff Gordon on admission revenue had been "underestimated." That's at best an excuse - Saunders already had discussed the retirement on the Q1 call - and at worst, a huge miscalculation.

If NASCAR and ISC believed that the departure of Gordon and Stewart, in particular, wouldn't impact fan interest, they simply are disconnected from the business at this point. The evidence for that argument came later, when Saunders said in the Q&A that response to the new points systems from fans was "overwhelmingly positive" - an assessment that seems to diverge with online reality, anyway. (See the comment section here, which is probably 9 to 1 negative, for instance. Admittedly, online discourse tends to skew to the negative, but "overwhelmingly positive" certainly seems to be a stretch.)

In the near term, I don't think ISC management is going to respond with aggressive margin-protecting steps against continued admissions revenue declines - particularly if upper management believes those declines aren't going to happen anyway. But if the loss of Gordon hurt in 2016 (even though he returned for eight races), Edwards and Stewart should hurt more in 2017. I'm skeptical the new scoring system will help - I think there's a reasonable chance it will hurt.

And management outlook aside, there's really not all that much ISC can do, anyway. Lowering ticket prices, for instance, isn't nearly as effective since the ticket cost is only a portion of the overall costs. The overwhelming majority of fans need to travel, many need to get hotels, and there are time and traffic considerations as well. Cutting $10 or $15 off a ticket price simply doesn't have that much impact given ticket price is only a component of the overall cost of attendance. G&A has been held in check relatively well.

The one issue is in terms of capital allocation. I'm not terribly thrilled with capex decisions: A sub-4% return at Daytona made little sense, and investing another $178 million at Phoenix has low ROIC as well, even if some of that spend appears to be catch-up maintenance. ISCA at the moment throws off enough cash that a management team focused on shareholder return could make some aggressive decisions; there's definitely a paper case for an LBO here, for instance.

But that's not going to happen either, given the family ownership. So what investors are left with is a business in decline, and a management team not able and/or willing to make major changes either in terms of operations or capital structure. At some point, that's going to show up in the stock price.

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Your headline is misleading, the opinion from one analysis doesn't represent Wall Street.
 
Your headline is misleading, the opinion from one analysis doesn't represent Wall Street.
I'll concede that. Brevity trumped accuracy in the headline.
 
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Yes Taco, but it is a well-thought opinion. I was particularly drawn to the sentence regarding the $400 million renovation at Daytona. When that was announced, I was shocked at the magnitude and expense of that project. Now I see the estimated return on that investment is only $15 million a year, which does not surprise me but does indicate to me the near recklessness which with major decisions are made.
 
Yes Taco, but it is a well-thought opinion. I was particularly drawn to the sentence regarding the $400 million renovation at Daytona. When that was announced, I was shocked at the magnitude and expense of that project. Now I see the estimated return on that investment is only $15 million a year, which does not surprise me but does indicate to me the near recklessness which with major decisions are made.
That is concerning. I understand that Daytona is "the Jewel in the Crown" but the upcoming Phoenix renovation will cost $178 million and I'd imagine they'll pour a similar amount into Richmond. If I were a shareholder, I would be deeply concerned. As a fan, I applaud the investment in facilities but that doesn't necessarily translate to business success. Those decisions do seem a little reckless with the current headwinds the sport is facing.
 
The writer is selling his book, where's the 10K?
 
That is concerning. I understand that Daytona is "the Jewel in the Crown" but the upcoming Phoenix renovation will cost $178 million and I'd imagine they'll pour a similar amount into Richmond. If I were a shareholder, I would be deeply concerned. As a fan, I applaud the investment in facilities but that doesn't necessarily translate to business success. Those decisions do seem a little reckless with the current headwinds the sport is facing.
Phoenix in particular. I haven't understood the motivation behind such a radical overhaul and unconventional design at an apparently successful facility.
 
Interesting to read the author conclude that it is probably OK morally that ISC is managed for the benefit of Nascar. Whatever happened to the concept of management having a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders?
 
More than likely the author is being paid to point out only the negative side of ISCA. The sheep only see the negative with no positive, and are forced over to the sell side benefiting the author or his book.

For all the negative nanny's, the stock only has a 3.168179 days to cover.
 
Interesting article,he thinks fans left when Stewart and Gordon retired,wait till Dale Jr. calls it quits.About half of my friends that still follow Nascar with me are Jr. fans.We send out surveys to our customers on a regular basis to find out information about them so we can serve them better.Like the article,I don't think Nascar knows their customer,a real disconnect with the fans.
 
Like the article,I don't think Nascar knows their customer,a real disconnect with the fans.

One idea to reconnect with the fans is take a page from sportscar and Indycar and have
a more organized consistent time to have all drivers present for an autograph session.
Most of the time there will only be a few drivers scheduled for an autograph
appearance at some point during the weekend. Rest of the weekend its fans
getting a quick scribble while walking.
 
Interesting article,he thinks fans left when Stewart and Gordon retired,wait till Dale Jr. calls it quits.About half of my friends that still follow Nascar with me are Jr. fans.We send out surveys to our customers on a regular basis to find out information about them so we can serve them better.Like the article,I don't think Nascar knows their customer,a real disconnect with the fans.
I think that's one of the problems NASCAR has that other sports don't have to the same extent. A lot of people are fans of individual drivers and not necessarily of the sport itself.
 
There is no new ground being broken here as far as I can see. Many of us have stated how fortunate Nascar was in having 2 fledgling sports networks needing product and then suffering simultaneous brain farts when signing the contracts for the term and money involved. To the best of my knowledge FOX and NBC were the only entities to bid on Nascar as no one else cared to carry the product and that makes the stupid money they threw at it even worse! Essentially what the TV contracts did was postpone Nascar's day of reckoning and who knows if the networks, at least NBC, won't force some kind of renegotiation?

"NASCAR, and ISCA, are receiving less revenue from Monster than they did from Sprint. That's what happens when the product becomes less desirable. And that deal is a precursor to the negotiations that will happen next decade."
 
One idea to reconnect with the fans is take a page from sportscar and Indycar and have
a more organized consistent time to have all drivers present for an autograph session.
Most of the time there will only be a few drivers scheduled for an autograph
appearance at some point during the weekend. Rest of the weekend its fans
getting a quick scribble while walking.
There is no new ground being broken here as far as I can see. Many of us have stated how fortunate Nascar was in having 2 fledgling sports networks needing product and then suffering simultaneous brain farts when signing the contracts for the term and money involved. To the best of my knowledge FOX and NBC were the only entities to bid on Nascar as no one else cared to carry the product and that makes the stupid money they threw at it even worse! Essentially what the TV contracts did was postpone Nascar's day of reckoning and who knows if the networks, at least NBC, won't force some kind of renegotiation?

"NASCAR, and ISCA, are receiving less revenue from Monster than they did from Sprint. That's what happens when the product becomes less desirable. And that deal is a precursor to the negotiations that will happen next decade."


The absurd TV contracts delayed the real crash NASCAR is going to face. The drivers and owners are living a fantasy the last decade. They will be facing some difficult times by 2024, if not sooner. The sport will survive, IMO, but will be back to a 28-30 race schedule with little mainstream coverage. They better get used to buses and puddle jumper aircraft for travel. Prep those private jets for sale and forget about $15-20M+ a year drivers. That will be the budget for a whole team worth of driving talent.
 
I think that's one of the problems NASCAR has that other sports don't have to the same extent. A lot of people are fans of individual drivers and not necessarily of the sport itself.

In stick and ball I have always been a fan of the team and years ago it was not uncommon for players to play for 1 team for all or most of their careers. With there being no loyalty between team and player it is even more important to cheer for a team as with free agency and salary caps most players are just hired guns.

When I started following Nascar there were many driver fans but it was primarily based on what manufacturer the individual drove for. Even as recently as when Kurt Busch switched from Ford's (RFR) to Dodge (Penske) there were people that supported Kurt that no longer could and those that could not support Kurt who all of sudden could. These days the manufacturer doesn't mean squat to most fans as drivers like Matt Kenseth and Carl Edwards didn't gain or lose fans when they switched from Ford to Toyota and the same thing holds true with the manufacturer switch of SHR.
 
The absurd TV contracts delayed the real crash NASCAR is going to face. The drivers and owners are living a fantasy the last decade. They will be facing some difficult times by 2024, if not sooner. The sport will survive, IMO, but will be back to a 28-30 race schedule with little mainstream coverage. They better get used to buses and puddle jumper aircraft for travel. Prep those private jets for sale and forget about $15-20M+ a year drivers. That will be the budget for a whole team worth of driving talent.

I agree and also believe Nascar has a future and will always be around but it will be more along the lines of what you have described. IDK if it is willful blindness, complete ignorance or perhaps obstinance that is preventing some from seeing the writing on the wall but it is present in day glow green!
 
The absurd TV contracts delayed the real crash NASCAR is going to face. The drivers and owners are living a fantasy the last decade. They will be facing some difficult times by 2024, if not sooner. The sport will survive, IMO, but will be back to a 28-30 race schedule with little mainstream coverage. They better get used to buses and puddle jumper aircraft for travel. Prep those private jets for sale and forget about $15-20M+ a year drivers. That will be the budget for a whole team worth of driving talent.
I don't think it's the drivers and owners that are living a fantasy. I think they've seen the handwriting for several years. The article seems to support the position that it's the sanctioning body that's out of touch with reality.
 
Interesting article,he thinks fans left when Stewart and Gordon retired,wait till Dale Jr. calls it quits.About half of my friends that still follow Nascar with me are Jr. fans.We send out surveys to our customers on a regular basis to find out information about them so we can serve them better.Like the article,I don't think Nascar knows their customer,a real disconnect with the fans.

When Jr retires, we'll have a good measuring stick of sorts. We'll know what the fanbase is. I suspect many (most) will stick around and become Chase Elliott fans.
 
I listened radioactive and they said daytona sold out.....
 
I don't think it's the drivers and owners that are living a fantasy. I think they've seen the handwriting for several years. The article seems to support the position that it's the sanctioning body that's out of touch with reality.

I think the pie will get smaller and smaller but the same owners that have big pieces of a big pie will have the same percentage of the small pie. I envision things like a going back to 2 series, less races and some tracks losing a date or both dates.
 
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