Looks like NASCAR races will move to streaming services in next contract

Spotter22 said:
Streaming will dominate cable in the next few years. Cable will go away like the home telephone.
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Landline home phones went away because the majority preferred the mobility of cell phones, and eventually the additional capabilities beyond making voice calls.

Asking in ignorance, what capabilities does streaming offer me that cable TV doesn't? To this outsider, it looks like the same stuff in a different package. It doesn't appear to be the 'a la carte' delivery system we've long hoped for. I'm still paying the same company for the content delivery system, only now I'm paying another party for the content.

There's nothing worse than multiple vendors responsible for different parts of a system. During a failure, they each point their fingers at the other.
 
I refuse to pay for cable TV just out of principle. Those dickheads price gouged for years, had terrible customer service, threw in all kinds of BS extra costs and hidden fees, kept raising prices for absolutely no reason, and clearly valued new customers over existing ones. If you have decent internet, streaming is the way to go. But I understand this isn't possible in all areas of the US.

It's so easy to stream, I really don't mind paying for multiple services. On modern TVs it's all right there, it only takes a few seconds to switch apps.
 
Revman said:
Honestly, I don't care where the racing is offered, I will be there. Practice and qualifying too if the NASCAR gods allow.
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I’m the same. But I’m not paying for the other 90% of the content Peackcock offers if I only want to watch the NASCAR events.
 
Revman said:
It appears that they would be the same sports as the $4.99 tier--just no ads. $9.99 to be ad free.
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and you can confirm that the live sports on the $4.99 tier cross over into the $9.99 tier? Live sports like football have TV timeouts worked into the flow of the game, what is the viewer watching during that time?
Blaze said:
I don’t get ads for the other things I watch
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Are you watching other live sports with no ads?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Can anyone recommend a good 'Streaming TV for Dummies' resource, preferably one that is NOT a video? Something I can read, not have read to me.
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Revman said:
Honestly, I don't care where the racing is offered, I will be there. Practice and qualifying too if the NASCAR gods allow.
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NASCAR Apologist said:
Hysterics.

It’s $5 a month. Cut down one Happy Meal a month if you need, you’ll be fine.
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Ok, maybe I don't completely understand this. It appears to me you need internet connectivity to stream. Where we live in the winter our internet is poor to fair at best. Doubt I could do a lot of streaming. So I would have to upgrade to another form of accessing the internet with unlimited data and I guess that would cost me $50+

Additionally when we travel for 7 months internet access in this country is very spotty for us the majority of the time. I guess if 5G was available anywhere by 2024 it wouldn't be too much of a problem for me.

For me to stream I have to use special cables and my phone is totally useless during the streaming time.

I am hoping by 2024 there will be a better path to stream.
 
Pat said:
I'm doing the opposite. Cable internet is returning to my house this Wednesday. After I see what the quality is like, I will disconnect my long, long relationship with AT&T. I've been trying to get rid of them for years. The money I'm paying for a land line and DSL is not worth it. You will get a better DSL package than I have for sure. My WiFi is ancient. I'm keeping DISH for TV because I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.
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It's working. AT&T UVerse which is 2005 DSL I believe. Signed up for full boat Sling at $25 month introductory rate. Will be $50 + taxes after, with 90ish channels and 200 hour DVR. It's BARELY enough bandwidth to run TV and PC. If I connect phone smoke comes out everywhere and it all stops. 5 bucks a month for internetz thru December. I'll pay off my cable bill next month, then see where it stands in Sept. Not likely to go back to Spectrum TV/Internet/phone package. Internet only and use Sling for channel selection & DVR. We will see.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
Ya know, this is at least three years down the road. I'm going to kick this can like a congressman does a budget bill.
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Do you have a Roku Smart TV? Do you have internet? If you have a Smart TV poke around in the home screen and find Sling. Sign up and try it. It's 25 bucks right now for full boat package. 200 hour DVR included.
 
Sidebar question: I get the impression some of y'all live in places where you can get Internet service and cable TV from different companies. Is this correct? Everywhere I've lived in the Internet era, I've never had any choice for either. You used the locally regulated monopoly, who provided both, or you used satellite and DSL.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
Sidebar question: I get the impression some of y'all live in places where you can get Internet service and cable TV from different companies. Is this correct? Everywhere I've lived in the Internet era, I've never had any choice for either. You used the locally regulated monopoly, who provided both, or you used satellite and DSL.
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Apparently AT& T has a hotspot dealio that you put outside the home, run wire inside. I assume it gets it's internet from the Jewish Space Lasers. AT&T guy that was here today says that's what his family uses. I think he said 55 bucks a month but thru phone side of business. Spectrum & AT&T offer internet only here in NC. Almost ALL cell providers also have a hotspot available. But...my experience with hotspot is they are severely data restricted. Get slooooow.
 
KTMLew01 said:
It's FIVE DOLLARS! We can take up a collection for you.
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No, it’s $60, and bound to increase like every other streaming service has due to demand. I’m
already paying double what I was before every other channel decided to make their own service. The whole point of streaming was to have a much lower price for the same product, adding another service to that list and jumping the price is out of the question for myself and a ton of other “original” cord cutters. I’m happy with what I’ve got, I’ll survive missing a few NASCAR races. The folks who advertise on MRN will have a little higher ROI a few weekends out of the season.
 
KTMLew01 said:
find Sling. Sign up and try it. It's 25 bucks right now for full boat package.
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You’re out date and have been for a while. The two basic sling packages are $35/mo each and if you want “full boat” to buy both it’s $50/mo - plus any special niche packages you want to add (like certain sports) for an extra $5/mo.

So if you want every channel sling offers in both of their main packages, and add in a sports package for college football, you are looking at $55/mo - and since channels like NBCSN are dissolving, sling will not be able to provide it.

So now you have to sign up for a totally separate service for minimum $60/year just to watch one extra sport on a weekly basis.

The only thing this is doing is creating a resurgence in pirates.

Yo ho 🏴‍☠️
 
KTMLew01 said:
Do you have a Roku Smart TV? Do you have internet? If you have a Smart TV poke around in the home screen and find Sling. Sign up and try it. It's 25 bucks right now for full boat package. 200 hour DVR included.
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No TCM on Blue or Orange. That's a deal-breaker. No Hallmark either, not that I'd mind if it disappeared.

Just as well, since I'd dread showing my Darling Bride how to use this. She got her first cell a few months ago and still has trouble tapping it correctly.
 
KTMLew01 said:
Almost ALL cell providers also have a hotspot available. But...my experience with hotspot is they are severely data restricted. Get slooooow.
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Yeah, but they make up for the slow performance by being expensive too. ;)

No way I'm getting my Internet connection over a cell signal. I'll go back to DSL before that happens.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
You’re out date and have been for a while. The two basic sling packages are $35/mo each and if you want “full boat” to buy both it’s $50/mo - plus any special niche packages you want to add (like certain sports) for an extra $5/mo.

So if you want every channel sling offers in both of their main packages, and add in a sports package for college football, you are looking at $55/mo - and since channels like NBCSN are dissolving, sling will not be able to provide it.

So now you have to sign up for a totally separate service for minimum $60/year just to watch one extra sport on a weekly basis.

The only thing this is doing is creating a resurgence in pirates.

Yo ho 🏴‍☠️
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Plus another $10 for the 200 hour DVR, according to their web site just now.

As I said, I have plenty of time to push this off. Come the 2025 D500, I probably be retired and will have moved. I'll see what my options and the new TV contract look like then.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
Sidebar question: I get the impression some of y'all live in places where you can get Internet service and cable TV from different companies. Is this correct? Everywhere I've lived in the Internet era, I've never had any choice for either. You used the locally regulated monopoly, who provided both, or you used satellite and DSL.
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I have a choice between local cable or DSL for internet. I'm already wired for both. There's always the Verizon hot-spot but I haven't gone there yet.
I have a choice of DISH satellite or cable company for TV. DISH provides the OTA channels in it's lineup. But I have an OTA antenna for the occasions when there is a contract dispute.
All of these can be bundled with different providers but I prefer to keep them separate. For example, AT&T is pushing a bundle with Direct TV. There are others out there I haven't tried.. mostly satellite connections.
 
$25 month RIGHT NOW! Just signed up couple hours ago. After tax was 26 & change. They have both of the channels you were looking for you just have to poke around some more. But since you don't really want help i'll quit.
 
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KTMLew01 said:
Email from Sling:

Login: [email protected]
Password: Only you know this! If you forgot, you can reset your password here.

Your offer: Get your first month of Sling Orange + Sling Blue for just $25! In addition, you have up to 200 hours of space with DVR Plus free for your first month. After one month, you will be charged $50/mo for Sling Orange + Sling Blue and $5/mo for DVR Plus unless you change your subscription in My Account.

Service(s): Orange & Blue, Sling Free, DVR PLUS
Next billing date: 08/26/2021 5:04pm EDT
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Did you not read “first month”? Lmao

Sling always offers “first month” deals to grab new subscribers after their free first week. After a month you pay standard rate. Which is exactly what your email states.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Are you watching other live sports with no ads?
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nah, because I got no sport I watch right now comes on it, unless you count WWE, and that doesn’t have ads because it’s also on the WWE Network in other counties and also on PPV. But this is about 3 years out, things can change before then. We can’t at the moment judge it.
 
KTMLew01 said:
But since you don't really want help i'll quit.
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Other than a request for references, I don't recall asking for help.

Until something I watch regularly, like NASCAR, isn't available on cable or satellite, I have no reason to investigate alternatives. Currently I'm willing to pay a bit extra for Darling Bride's ease of use.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
"NASCAR’s TV deal with Fox and NBC runs through 2024. Miller was asked about the possibility that when the new NASCAR deal is negotiated some of the races might be on the Peacock subscription service. "

I'm paying for NASCAR now, via a cable tier I wouldn't otherwise have. I would have no objection to paying for Peacock, or any other service.

But I want to have to pay for only ONE service. Either leave everything on cable or move everything to one streaming service, I don't really care which. Don't make me pay for both Peacock and NBCSN.
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I think NBCSN will be terminated by then. I doubt the FOX/NBC contract was to get new customers for the cable companies. I think cable will soon be a thing of the past, to many people use portable devices like Cell phones and tablets. No need to have cable. Its very bulky when riding your bike.
 
Even as somebody who is a member of Generation Z


Streaming was supposed to not only be more convienient than cable, but cheaper too. Now, it's rapidly becoming as much of a headache as Pay TV was..

Since EVERYBODY and their dog is launching their own streaming service with exclusive content, you now have to monitor when each app's subscription ends and cancel it in order to get the most savings from a monetary perspective. Why do you think people are sharing passwords so much?! Maybe because nobody can pay for all of these damn services popping up?

Having to also juggle apps and passwords is also a massive pain in the ass.. It was so much easier when Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video were all you needed.

There is also the factor of decision fatigue, as whenever I'm confronted with that much content at once, I usually go "**** It" and just watch YouTube videos instead..

This should be expected though, these are the same media companies that helped turn cable into a bloated mess after all.

All their greed will do is cause piracy to skyrocket, and when it does, these corporate dopes will play the victim and cry poor when in reality, they'll have nobody but themselves to blame for it. As the head of Valve, Gabe Newell once said,
"Piracy is a service problem".

When the pirates offer you a service that is A). Cheaper and B). More convienient than the legal options, it's no surprise piracy flourishes..
 
Mispeedway15 said:
Man the 2010s were awesome. As I said back then, companies are not stupid. They're great at figuring out how to make money, people are going to be paying more with all of their subscriptions than they ever did with cable. Hell Spectrum is cheaper than Youtube TV anymore.

I will say though I don't think this is a good route for sports outside of regional games. I understand a Coastal Carolina game being on a streaming network, not a major league sport with millions of viewers a week. Risky stuff
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Exactly, that's the joke. Cord cutters think they're pulling a fast one and making off like a bandit.. They aren't

The truth is they aren'ty
 
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Look at the bright side. We all get to pay to hear Jeff Burton talk about playoff implications. He deserves it.;);)😜:puffin:🤣 :XXROFL: :XXROFL:

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Charlie Spencer said:
Landline home phones went away because the majority preferred the mobility of cell phones, and eventually the additional capabilities beyond making voice calls.

Asking in ignorance, what capabilities does streaming offer me that cable TV doesn't? To this outsider, it looks like the same stuff in a different package. It doesn't appear to be the 'a la carte' delivery system we've long hoped for. I'm still paying the same company for the content delivery system, only now I'm paying another party for the content.

There's nothing worse than multiple vendors responsible for different parts of a system. During a failure, they each point their fingers at the other.
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Once the cable companies embrace the inevitable, they will offer you a custom streaming package that you will choose not them. I dont deal with anybody but my internet provider
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Sidebar question: I get the impression some of y'all live in places where you can get Internet service and cable TV from different companies. Is this correct? Everywhere I've lived in the Internet era, I've never had any choice for either. You used the locally regulated monopoly, who provided both, or you used satellite and DSL.
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I have 2 choices, Spectrum and Horry Telephone Fiber Optic.
 
Spotter22 said:
Once the cable companies embrace the inevitable, they will offer you a custom streaming package that you will choose not them. I dont deal with anybody but my internet provider
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Doubt it. Why would cable companies be the middle man for every streaming service? If I'm in charge of a streaming service then why wouldn't I want to have as many direct customers as possible?
 
cheesepuffs said:
Doubt it. Why would cable companies be the middle man for every streaming service? If I'm in charge of a streaming service then why wouldn't I want to have as many direct customers as possible?
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I have Xfinity (their internet speed is amazing) here in Chicagoland area and HBO Max as well as Peacock come with my service.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Doubt it. Why would cable companies be the middle man for every streaming service? If I'm in charge of a streaming service then why wouldn't I want to have as many direct customers as possible?
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Same reason they are now
 
Spotter22 said:
Same reason they are now
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Plus, the media companies are quickly running out of new subscribers. Netflix and Disney Plus both saw subscription growth slow. In fact, Netflix missed their quarterly target for the first time in years

There also is a limit to how many paid services people will subscribe to.. About 4
 
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A lot of people now have 4K televisions. There is limited programming for that except through a streaming service. If broadcasters have visions of offering more 4K content, they will have to do with via streaming. Cable and satellite companies and local stations don't have the capability to carry any level of 4K programming because it takes up so much more bandwidth than a standard 720 or 1080 picture. Otherwise, TV manufacturers will have to stop making 4K sets, which isn't happening any time soon.
 
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