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Greg said:
If you are running a touchdown play with 45 seconds to go fall down at the one yard line if you have downs and time outs to spare. Then run the clock down to 15 or 20 seconds to go before trying to get the TD.

It wouldn't have helped against the Cheifs with Mahomes but it could in many cases.
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This result is going to get enough high profile people clamoring for change that the competition committee may do something. What they're most likely to do is not what I'd like - a full OT period of a given length - but to expand the guaranteed possession concept to cover a TD as well. If the Chiefs score a TD on their opening possession, the Bills have a chance to score a TD and tie it up again, then it becomes sudden death.

I predict that will happen at some point.
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Should get the ball back to try to score every time until one team can’t answer.
 
gnomesayin said:



This result is going to get enough high profile people clamoring for change that the competition committee may do something. What they're most likely to do is not what I'd like - a full OT period of a given length - but to expand the guaranteed possession concept to cover a TD as well. If the Chiefs score a TD on their opening possession, the Bills have a chance to score a TD and tie it up again, then it becomes sudden death.

I predict that will happen at some point.
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FLRacingFan said:
It just makes no sense to push this new offense-heavy style of football at everyone and then feel like calling game with one team not even getting their hands on the ball. Fun game and stupid finish.
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While I agree on certain points, it's likely to happen and it makes no sense when the entire game has been skewed in the offense's favor, I'd rather not have it taken to a further degree where you're so offensive centric you require a possession because you can't get off the field on defense.

There was nothing unfair about the way the Bills lost this game, and nobody was clamoring for an OT rule change until something like this happens and they don't get what they want to see. It's a team sport and Buffalo lost because they gave up a fieldgoal drive in 13 seconds, and then gave up a touchdown drive the length of the field. Make a stop and you win, make a stop and you get the ball back, do neither and you lose, I don't see anything wrong with that. And I certainly don't feel bad for the Bills just so Josh Allen gets to touch the football again? institute a rule change? why is everyone so sure the result would be different? Buffalo played a hell of a game and so did Josh Allen but there's nothing to feel bad about here.

It just highlights a singular instance where perceived unfairness takes place that doesn't exist. imo.
 
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And just so I don't get in trouble up here for going off topic, it sounds like I missed another awesome game last night. That's a bitter pill for the Bills and their fans to swallow, but sports are like that sometimes, and somebody had to lose. It is what it is, as is the NFL's overtime rule. Congrats to the Chiefs on a hard-fought W. 👍
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Should get the ball back to try to score every time until one team can’t answer.
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Players union would never allow that. Many were even fine with no overtime in the regular season during the previous collective bargaining meetings
 
RacerrecaR said:
Players union would never allow that. Many were even fine with no overtime in the regular season during the previous collective bargaining meetings
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I don't mind regular season games ending in a tie. But postseason games can't. And this process just doesn't work.

Game should continue until one team doesn't score in playoff overtime.
 
what a hell of a weekend of Football. Rodgers and Brady both booted.

3 away teams winning on walk off Field goals.

The insane ending to KC/Buf game. Those QBs, holy ****, that was fun to watch. I didnt have a dog in the fight, but they had me jumping up and down and yelling.

NFL OT rules are straight trash. We got robbed of seeing what Allen could do in OT. Just a flat out amazing weekend of football.

Just when you thought KC was out of it, here comes Mahomes.

You think the Bills are out of it, boom, here comes Allen.

Game over with 13 seconds right? surely KC cant tie this thing up. Tie ball game. wow..stunning.
 
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RacerrecaR said:
55 straight minutes without a touchdown is horrible for a quarterback of his caliber. He is a choke artist
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No the special teams are the choke artists, give up a blocked FG, blocked punt for 7, and THEN on the final play only have 10 men on the field. LOL!
 
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Nitro Dude said:
I wouldn't have a problem with them going in another direction with OT. I have never liked the way it is right now...and it sounds like I'm not the only one.
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The Chiefs and Bills' offensive battle ended with a thud that reignited a debate over the NFL's overtime rules

It felt unfair that Josh Allen and the Bills never got a chance to touch the ball in overtime after a thrilling offensive shootout with the Chiefs.
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It's not okay that everyone knew the Chiefs won the second the coin was flipped.
 
Michfan said:
They aren't paying Rodgers that much to put up 10 points. He has a top 2 wide receiver at his disposal. Unacceptable.
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Would have been 13 if their special teams did their job. Let’s not act like Jimmy Garoppolo was any better, in fact he was worse.

If I was Rodgers I’d go to Pittsburgh around an actual team that has a more respected/disciplined coach.
 
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AndyMarquisLive said:
It's not okay that everyone knew the Chiefs won the second the coin was flipped.
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The way I look it is that it's a team sport and there is an offence and a defense on each team that helps contribute to a win, loss, or tie in regular play...so I feel that the offense and the defense should both be secured the opportunity to contribute to a win or loss in OT also. A coin toss should not in any way give an advantage to a particular team. Some teams have a better offence then defense and some teams have a better defense than offense and the way the rules are now the coin toss absolutely can give an advantage to one team or the other by the way it lands.
 
Turtle84 said:
While I agree on certain points, it's likely to happen and it makes no sense when the entire game has been skewed in the offense's favor, I'd rather not have it taken to a further degree where you're so offensive centric you require a possession because you can't get off the field on defense.

There was nothing unfair about the way the Bills lost this game, and nobody was clamoring for an OT rule change until something like this happens and they don't get what they want to see. It's a team sport and Buffalo lost because they gave up a fieldgoal drive in 13 seconds, and then gave up a touchdown drive the length of the field. Make a stop and you win, make a stop and you get the ball back, do neither and you lose, I don't see anything wrong with that. And I certainly don't feel bad for the Bills just so Josh Allen gets to touch the football again? institute a rule change? why is everyone so sure the result would be different? Buffalo played a hell of a game and so did Josh Allen but there's nothing to feel bad about here.

It just highlights a singular instance where perceived unfairness takes place that doesn't exist. imo.
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Make them both play all three phases. The Chiefs had been getting gashed too and they didn’t have to play defense why? If you make them play a full 10-, 12-, or 15-minute period someone is going to have to make a play on defense eventually. I thought it was dumb when the KC/NE AFCCG played out pretty much the exact same way three years ago too.
 
Seam McVay turns 36 today. Beating the Bucs yesterday was a nice birthday present.🏈 🎂
 
As long as there's been overtime, people have complained about the overtime rules. How about just winning the game in regulation? Nobody would be having this discussion should Buffalo have done their job. They didn't and they deservedly lost. Better luck next time. And there will be a next time. Helluva game. Helluva weekend for football. Maybe the best?
 
Maybe the coin flip itself should decide the winner outright. Have a problem with that? Well, you should have won in regulation then.

It shouldn't be about trying to find a justification for the rules as they are. The question is: Is this the best method of deciding a tied playoff game? I don't think so. Once it changes, most everyone will accept that as better (unless they do something really zany like move toward the college rules).
 
There are things I wonder about sometimes that would never happen, but I wonder about how the rules are actually written. For instance, in OT if Team A wins the coin toss and elects to receive, and Team B completes a successful onside kick, is Team A guaranteed another possession if Team B then kicks a field goal? Could Team B attempt an onside kick again to prevent the possession entirely?
 
gnomesayin said:
There are things I wonder about sometimes that would never happen, but I wonder about how the rules are actually written. For instance, in OT if Team A wins the coin toss and elects to receive, and Team B completes a successful onside kick, is Team A guaranteed another possession if Team B then kicks a field goal? Could Team B attempt an onside kick again to prevent the possession entirely?
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Team A is not guaranteed another possession. Electing to receive counts as possession
 
gnomesayin said:
Maybe the coin flip itself should decide the winner outright. Have a problem with that? Well, you should have won in regulation then.

It shouldn't be about trying to find a justification for the rules as they are. The question is: Is this the best method of deciding a tied playoff game? I don't think so. Once it changes, most everyone will accept that as better (unless they do something really zany like move toward the college rules).
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The coin flip isn't deciding the game. The players are. As much as I would have liked to have seen Buffalo win that game, they blew it.

They're a damn good team. They will be back.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
The coin flip isn't deciding the game. The players are. As much as I would have liked to have seen Buffalo win that game, they blew it.

They're a damn good team. They will be back.
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I don't disagree. It's not so much "The Bills got screwed" as "There is a better way that would be an improvement".

Even as a lifetime Chiefs fan, I'm hoping Buffalo will win the conference once in the next couple years.

IMO Buffalo's only major error in a relatively error-free game was choosing to kick the ball deep on the kickoff with 13 seconds to go. Otherwise, in contrast to the weekend's other games that were rife with frequent lapses and poor play, that was truly elite football.
 
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gnomesayin said:
I don't disagree. It's not so much "The Bills got screwed" as "There is a better way that would be an improvement".

Even as a lifetime Chiefs fan, I'm hoping Buffalo will win the conference once in the next couple years.

IMO Buffalo's only major error in a relatively error-free game was choosing to kick the ball deep on the kickoff with 13 seconds to go. Otherwise, in contrast to the weekend's other games that were rife with frequent lapses and poor play, that was truly elite football.
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I sure agree with that last paragraph. They handed KC that stopped clock allowing for the extra play. Not enough trust in their Special Teams. Of course, hindsight, well, you know.

There's simply no way to satisfy the masses with further change. There's not going to be a consensus on any format. It would simply be change for the sake of change. The next time a game would end in overtime, the debate would begin again. We all think we have the answer. That's the problem.
 
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