Bonehead: Gateway/Portland

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I gotta agree with Andy’s picks here.
Tbh that’s just how Kenny is. He did ok IMO, and I actually enjoy some of his YouTube videos etc these days. Admittedly I’m usually drinking when I watch them.
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NASCAR for not doing much promotion of standalone events & Fox for just having a mediocre technical production, no postrace.
 
They have a post race show almost every day the whole season. It's called Race Hub and it is on FS-1

There was a time when we had Trackside on Friday nights, NASCAR This Morning (or NASCAR RaceDay later on) on race day morning, NASCAR Victory Lane after the race, and Totally NASCAR every weeknight.

And a proper post race on top of all of that.

Our standards have slipped.
 
They have a post race show almost every day the whole season. It's called Race Hub and it is on FS-1

That is NOT a post race show on pit road. They interviewed KB8 and that’s it.

That’s a studio show in Charlotte.
 
The race ran over allotted time because of the weather delays.
 
That is NOT a post race show on pit road. They interviewed KB8 and that’s it.

That’s a studio show in Charlotte.
Post means after, the Race hub will have drivers all week talking about the race. You don't have to watch it but it will be there. The race had over 15 cautions, over an hour of lightning delays, and you think what ? lol.
 
Post means after, the Race hub will have drivers all week talking about the race. You don't have to watch it but it will be there. The race had over 15 cautions, over an hour of lightning delays, and you think what ? lol.

Oh so now you like sports. Lol
 
The race ran over allotted time because of the weather delays.

That would be a valid excuse if FOX didn't continuously fail to deliver the level of post-race coverage that they provided 15-20 years ago. FOX hasn't really cared about presenting NASCAR seriously since they got rid of SPEED Channel.

At one point, FOX was the gold standard for racing coverage. Now they're the golden toilet.
 
That would be a valid excuse if FOX didn't continuously fail to deliver the level of post-race coverage that they provided 15-20 years ago. FOX hasn't really cared about presenting NASCAR seriously since they got rid of SPEED Channel.

At one point, FOX was the gold standard for racing coverage. Now they're the golden toilet.

I agree 100%.
 
That would be a valid excuse if FOX didn't continuously fail to deliver the level of post-race coverage that they provided 15-20 years ago. FOX hasn't really cared about presenting NASCAR seriously since they got rid of SPEED Channel.

At one point, FOX was the gold standard for racing coverage. Now they're the golden toilet.
Fox Sports has over an hour every day of Nascar post and pre race coverage all week long. I am not aware of any other network that covers the sport with that much coverage. Do you know of any?
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I just wish thy would ditch 75% of the pre-race coverage and replace it with post-race coverage when there are actually timely things of relevance to discuss. Pre-race is mostly mindless blather. And no, I don't want it on Monday and through the week, I want it AFTER the race. Not time on the network? Put it on the NASCAR channel, er.... Oh, yeah we don't HAVE one of those, because because that would require effort and investment, and NASCAR would rather have everyone else do the job for them, even if it's a lousy job.
 
Agree 100%. I don't need amping up before the race --- I want to hear drivers AFTER the race.

I usually just find the green flag time and try to tune in as close to that as possible. The pre-race often includes too much fluff for my taste. If I'm watching a pre-game/pre-race show, I want some analysis and information to help me contextualize what I am about to watch. What makes this race unique? What are the track conditions? What did the teams learn in practice? What should I watch for in the race today? In my experience, the pre-race shows just give a surface level overview.
 
That would be a valid excuse if FOX didn't continuously fail to deliver the level of post-race coverage that they provided 15-20 years ago. FOX hasn't really cared about presenting NASCAR seriously since they got rid of SPEED Channel.

At one point, FOX was the gold standard for racing coverage. Now they're the golden toilet.

Fox's lack of postrace coverage falls on them not having any presence in the streaming world with the exception of Fox Nation, which would actually work since it's already built to cater exclusively to rural, white, working class, conservative men.

ESPN has postrace for F1 on ESPN+ even after their Sky simulcast is off the air - although I've never watched because the Max Verstappen Show is B-O-R-I-N-G asf. And NBC has plenty of postrace on Peacock.

Though the same people complaining about no postrace will complain about Peacock, and SOI will complain about Peacock and tell us no coverage is better than optional coverage.
 
There was a time when we had Trackside on Friday nights, NASCAR This Morning (or NASCAR RaceDay later on) on race day morning, NASCAR Victory Lane after the race, and Totally NASCAR every weeknight.

And a proper post race on top of all of that.

Our standards have slipped.
I miss Trackside so much.
 
I usually just find the green flag time and try to tune in as close to that as possible. The pre-race often includes too much fluff for my taste. If I'm watching a pre-game/pre-race show, I want some analysis and information to help me contextualize what I am about to watch. What makes this race unique? What are the track conditions? What did the teams learn in practice? What should I watch for in the race today? In my experience, the pre-race shows just give a surface level overview.
TNT's pre-race show, when they had the "Summer Series" package, was excellent, especially the "Pride of NASCAR" and "Generations" segments.

NBC's old "Countdown to Green" (technically that was TNT too) was great too at setting the stage while telling stories beyond the drivers. They also used to do that thing where they'd spotlight the fastest crew on pit road. And, during the starting lineup, they'd list driver, crew chief, and spotter.

I know it will be brushed off as nostalgia, but the coverage back then was so much better than what we've got - and a large part of why NASCAR exploded in popularity. Fox made NASCAR "Must See TV." It was the standard, and NBC/TNT were solid too.

Right now, the gold standard for motorsports coverage is NBC's presentation of the NTT IndyCar Series.
 
Race coverage should start at 1:00 PM EST. Green flag @ 1:18 PM. They can add any info we needed to know during cautions.
I have always believed they should always start at a quarter past the hour so I could only ever agree to supporting 1:15 pm EST green flag start times.

The driver intros should be performed with drivers standing beside their cars on the front straight and they should be introduced by a team smoking hawt trophy girls.

The pace car should be a convertible with three of four smoking hawt trophy girls presenting their hawt legs while it paces around the track.
 
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