Random NASCAR Stuff to talk about.....

Hmm is that total rigged for Chase too like all the Larson and Blaney fans want to think MPD is?
 
kkfan91 said:
We are seriously not going to start saying NASCAR is dying over rookie stripes are we
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Yep
The time is short now, with just enough life left in us to see the buzzards eating our guts.

Cause we all are gonna die now.
 
Rick Hedrick just paid $900,000 for a '63 Split-Window Corvette at the Barrett-Jackson auction at Scottdale, Arizona.

Pretty soon you're talking real money . . .

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pjmolo said:
Rick Hedrick just paid $900,000 for a '63 Split-Window Corvette at the Barrett-Jackson auction at Scottdale, Arizona.

Pretty soon you're talking real money . . .
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Hell, is that all? I could have done that.

I'd be living it and cooking Ramen on the radiator for the rest of my life, but still...
 
So I got bored today and another thread had me think about something: of recent champions in NASCAR, what percentage of their wins took place in Overtime against the average percentage of races which go to overtime since 2005?

Ryan Blaney: 2/13 (15.4%)
Chase Elliott: 3/19 (15.7%)
Kyle Larson 6/29 (20.7%)
ALL POINTS RACES SINCE 2005: 164/699 (23.4%)
Kyle Busch: 15/63 (23.8%)
Joey Logano: 13/36 (36.1%)

Very interesting distribution IMO. That said, correlation is not causation. I peeked at Logano as he's an obvious outlier having outperformed the average. In those 13 races:

2014 TMS: Passes Jeff Gordon on lap 340 to win, past scheduled distance
2014 Loudon: Led last 30 laps
2015 Daytona 500: Led the last 13 laps
2015 Kansas: Led the last 7 laps. Also brought out the GWC by spinning the leader to win?
2015 Talladega: Took the lead from Greg Biffle on lap 189, past the scheduled distance.
2016 Talladega: Led the last 45 laps
2016 Phoenix: Took the lead from Matt Kenseth on lap 317, 5 laps past scheduled distance.
2019 Michigan: Led the last 18 laps
2020 Phoenix: Led the last 24 laps
2021 Bristol Dirt: Led the last 61 laps
2022 Gateway: Took the lead from Kyle Busch on lap 244, 4 laps past scheduled distance
2024 Nashville: Logano's first lap as leader took place on lap 323. The race was scheduled for a 300 lap distance.
2024 Atlanta: Logano takes the lead on Lap 264, 4 after scheduled distance.

6 out of 13 then were races he could only have won (at least in the running order we see) thanks to GWC finishes with an additional 7th where the final caution was brought out by him wrecking the leader. Even more amusing to me: Logano's championships happen in years where he locks in by:

2018: Go ahead and read the Talladega on this forum right here.
2022: Fails to wreck William Byron in spite of his best efforts, but that does put Byron in the wall and lets Logano by.
2024: Wins Nashville largely because he has more fuel in the car to go 31 laps past the scheduled distance.

(In case you were wondering, 6/36 races being one where the GWC wasn't a significant factor in him winning is a ratio of 16.7%, which is actually still higher than Elliott or Blaney.)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
virtualbalboa said:
So I got bored today and another thread had me think about something: of recent champions in NASCAR, what percentage of their wins took place in Overtime against the average percentage of races which go to overtime since 2005?
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I think I'd open my wrists before I got bored enough to calculate this.
 
virtualbalboa said:
So I got bored today and another thread had me think about something: of recent champions in NASCAR, what percentage of their wins took place in Overtime against the average percentage of races which go to overtime since 2005?

Ryan Blaney: 2/13 (15.4%)
Chase Elliott: 3/19 (15.7%)
Kyle Larson 6/29 (20.7%)
ALL POINTS RACES SINCE 2005: 164/699 (23.4%)
Kyle Busch: 15/63 (23.8%)
Joey Logano: 13/36 (36.1%)

Very interesting distribution IMO. That said, correlation is not causation. I peeked at Logano as he's an obvious outlier having outperformed the average. In those 13 races:

2014 TMS: Passes Jeff Gordon on lap 340 to win, past scheduled distance
2014 Loudon: Led last 30 laps
2015 Daytona 500: Led the last 13 laps
2015 Kansas: Led the last 7 laps. Also brought out the GWC by spinning the leader to win?
2015 Talladega: Took the lead from Greg Biffle on lap 189, past the scheduled distance.
2016 Talladega: Led the last 45 laps
2016 Phoenix: Took the lead from Matt Kenseth on lap 317, 5 laps past scheduled distance.
2019 Michigan: Led the last 18 laps
2020 Phoenix: Led the last 24 laps
2021 Bristol Dirt: Led the last 61 laps
2022 Gateway: Took the lead from Kyle Busch on lap 244, 4 laps past scheduled distance
2024 Nashville: Logano's first lap as leader took place on lap 323. The race was scheduled for a 300 lap distance.
2024 Atlanta: Logano takes the lead on Lap 264, 4 after scheduled distance.

6 out of 13 then were races he could only have won (at least in the running order we see) thanks to GWC finishes with an additional 7th where the final caution was brought out by him wrecking the leader. Even more amusing to me: Logano's championships happen in years where he locks in by:

2018: Go ahead and read the Talladega on this forum right here.
2022: Fails to wreck William Byron in spite of his best efforts, but that does put Byron in the wall and lets Logano by.
2024: Wins Nashville largely because he has more fuel in the car to go 31 laps past the scheduled distance.

(In case you were wondering, 6/36 races being one where the GWC wasn't a significant factor in him winning is a ratio of 16.7%, which is actually still higher than Elliott or Blaney.)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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You can see it watching the races he's won etc. Even when the car doesn't, Logano has a little something extra when it REALLY matters t the end that most drivers don't.
 
Please enjoy this post from the guy who was creating 23XI's paint jobs at the time:



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hmmm298 said:
You can see it watching the races he's won etc. Even when the car doesn't, Logano has a little something extra when it REALLY matters t the end that most drivers don't.
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As much as I like Blaney it seems that this "little something extra" is what he is missing. Time and again he has caught the leader only to not be able to complete that pass for the win. One common theme over the past couple years from him is how he used up his equipment just getting up near the front. Its something that a few of the other drivers seem to do a bit better.
 
DIDIT said:
As much as I like Blaney it seems that this "little something extra" is what he is missing. Time and again he has caught the leader only to not be able to complete that pass for the win. One common theme over the past couple years from him is how he used up his equipment just getting up near the front. Its something that a few of the other drivers seem to do a bit better.
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There's a lot of ways to interpret this data. To me, the biggest takeaway is that Logano (or at least his team) has figured out how to best negotiate the fluid nature of NASCAR's race management. Ultimately, he might not make the chase if Nashville ends under a green flag at lap 300. But their race strategy must be taking into account some expectation of races ending under GWC conditions based on his record.
 
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