Cup RACE thread --- Atlanta

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I did enjoy this race, but I don’t like that they threw the caution at the end.
Nascar has been promoting or talking about all these close finishes and at the super speedways the last 100 ft or so can be the most exciting part so I feel cheated when I watch the whole race and don’t get to see them race to the finish line. I don’t want to see anybody get hurt so I understand why they put it out, but I think there is room for improvement.
 
I love how some of the Chase fans are more mad about Larson making a late block with 2 to go on someone else, like everyone else does at these tracks, than they are about Chase getting completely taken out by a repeat offender. #RentFree

That block looked a lot like the one Chase pulled on Lajoie a couple years ago in this race.
 
Efisher131 said:
I love how some of the Chase fans are more mad about Larson making a late block with 2 to go on someone else, like everyone else does at these tracks, than they are about Chase getting completely taken out by a repeat offender. #RentFree

That block looked a lot like the one Chase pulled on Lajoie a couple years ago in this race.
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To each their own I guess. Blocking is part of this racing. I am more frustrated with Larson for what I am starting to refer to as the old "Larson Special" where he runs guys up into the wall off the corner and tries to force them to lift. That's just a minor annoyance though. As an Elliott fan I am way more pissed at Wrecky.
 
Overall this was a much better race than Daytona but I am still glad we are moving on from speedway racing now. I wish they would shake up the schedule to break these apart more. I would personally love to the see The Rock back as the second race of the season. Maybe if the Xfinity race is a success this season that will become possible.

I tried to let some time go by before posting to make sure I was not too pissed because man what a bummer as a Chase fan. I LOVED the call to get tires because Chase had a great car and was on the radio saying he "had no complaints" about the car and just could not break though the "bubble" around 10th. They were flying and I am confident if not for the wreck he would have been in the mix for the stage win. As a guy who has been quick to criticize AG for playing it too safe all the time I loved it. I think Chase would have been right in the mix for the win if he was not caught up but oh well that's racing.

That said - man am I tried of Wrecky. This was not one of his more egregious moves and I can't say it was 100% his fault but his over aggressive style has just cost others so many times. Carson H is not far behind and he is going to get run back to the lower levels of he can't learn to drive with more respect. Yet - hie may have hit everything but the lotto, but he was in it for the win at the end. I guess this is the new NASCAR.
 
jaqua19 said:
Chase Elliott will be a contender year imo.

Superspeedway crap aside, speed is there and chase has been there done that.
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3 Races, 3 great cars so far albeit 2 speedways. What's catching my attention is the confidence they seem to have. I feel like Chase may have finally gotten more comfortable in this car at the end of last season and that has carried momentum now. They were very calm about the wreck and Chase just said something along the lines of knowing he should not have stayed near that car for so long. Not sure how much a road course will tell us next week because Chase is always solid at those the majority of the time. Phoenix is what interests me now.
 
DC76 said:
I did enjoy this race, but I don’t like that they threw the caution at the end.
Nascar has been promoting or talking about all these close finishes and at the super speedways the last 100 ft or so can be the most exciting part so I feel cheated when I watch the whole race and don’t get to see them race to the finish line. I don’t want to see anybody get hurt so I understand why they put it out, but I think there is room for improvement.
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No other sport does this. If a guy is hurt in any sport they continue play until the other team gets the ball. Why NASCAR doesn't race to the line for a wreck on the backstretch is beyond me.
 
2 Sweet said:
I hear this excuse all the time, and I think it's 100% BS.

I assume these safety crews are intelligent enough to understand when it's safe to venture their way onto the track, caution or no caution. I've also witnessed the safety trucks approaching wrecked vehicles like they are out for a leisurely Sunday drive, while some portly fella jumps out and WALKS his way....to the safest car NASCAR has ever developed.

The "put it out" competition clowns can cling to whatever excuses they want, but it's all a bunch of nonsense. If safety was truly the top priority, as far as these end of race yellows are concerned? They would hire people who are physically capable of reaching the wrecks as quickly as possible, and they would have 3x the amount of crews around the track.

I'm tired of NASCAR blaming "safety" for their incompetence.
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Exactly! I like Charlie but this is ridiculous. We see NFL players blow out achilles & ACL's all the time, they wouldn't stop the play mid fumble return if a player is down with an injury. They were running about 30 seconds a lap, if they're on the backstretch we're talking about a 10-15 second delay at most
 
The TV coverage of the racing was OK. But I got a big insight by watching Bubba's (naturally) in car camera on MAX. From a driver's perspective the racing is 10X more intense. The spotter chatter and word from the crew chief was good too. Bubba ran the last 20 or so laps with the alternator turned off after the CC told him he was good to make the finish. Never heard of that before. I also got a laugh from the warnings when the 47 was near and being "aggressive". Wonder if they said the same about the 71?
 
Hawaii808 said:
The TV coverage of the racing was OK. But I got a big insight by watching Bubba's (naturally) in car camera on MAX. From a driver's perspective the racing is 10X more intense. The spotter chatter and word from the crew chief was good too. Bubba ran the last 20 or so laps with the alternator turned off after the CC told him he was good to make the finish. Never heard of that before. I also got a laugh from the warnings when the 47 was near and being "aggressive". Wonder if they said the same about the 71?
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I didn’t watch any of the in car cam on Max for the Atlanta race but it was pretty awesome during Daytona. Love that feature, hope it sticks around through the season. Kyle Busch is a fun listen and watch on it luckily.
 
Hawaii808 said:
The TV coverage of the racing was OK. But I got a big insight by watching Bubba's (naturally) in car camera on MAX. From a driver's perspective the racing is 10X more intense. The spotter chatter and word from the crew chief was good too. Bubba ran the last 20 or so laps with the alternator turned off after the CC told him he was good to make the finish. Never heard of that before. I also got a laugh from the warnings when the 47 was near and being "aggressive". Wonder if they said the same about the 71?
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Having the MAX package is making me look forward to races like I have not in a long time. I am really pumped for the road course next week to get that perspective. Also love that I don't have to watch the races live and can watch later at night like I did last night. Being a fan of Chase I am surprised at how cool and composed he has been over the last 2 races - even when involved in wrecks. At one point yesterday before he was involved in the wreck the spotter thought he may have been pinched into the wall and asked him if he caught the wall and Chase was just like "no I did not" in a tone I'd have when my wife asked me if I remembered to pick up milk on the way home.
 
Mispeedway15 said:
No other sport does this. If a guy is hurt in any sport they continue play until the other team gets the ball. Why NASCAR doesn't race to the line for a wreck on the backstretch is beyond me.
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I am all for racing back to the line - especially on the last lap but I remember no speed limit on pit road and was fine with that too. Anyone else remember the pit crew guy used to stand in the box with the sign to show the driver where it was as they were coming at him like 100-150 mph? It was nuts. Danger is just part of the sport and you can't completely remove it. It's really stupid too because throwing the caution as they are coming to the line like they did in the first Duel race is not doing anything for safety. I mean they were already basically at the line. The only think it did was freeze the running order.
 
DC76 said:
I did enjoy this race, but I don’t like that they threw the caution at the end.
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Mispeedway15 said:
No other sport does this. If a guy is hurt in any sport they continue play until the other team gets the ball. Why NASCAR doesn't race to the line for a wreck on the backstretch is beyond me.
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Get back to us when the movement of those guys starts getting clocked at anywhere near the speed of a cup car at a super speedway.
 
The safety personnel leaves alot to be desired in itself. Nascar needs a full time team that travels with them to every race like Indycar has. Nascar always talks safety, why do they not have one?
 
What would be wrong with only having the top 10 cars out there for overtime. If your not in the top 10 at the end of regulation , oh well. It would also prevent drivers that ran up front all day from ending up 28th because of a last lap Bozo move.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
How many have the danger of burning to death? How many have the responers so far from the potential injuries they need vehicles to get there? How many routinely have 10 or 15 they have to check on?
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Sorry man, no way can you tell me NASCAR is more dangerous than the NFL anymore
 
Pat said:
I sense no remorse. :rolleyes:
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We honestly could be witnessing the rise of the next Dale Earnhardt, bot who knows what the future holds.
Maybe he'll never win.
There's just something about him I haven't seen since I was a kid. Im not totally sure what that is.
 
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Mispeedway15 said:
Sorry man, no way can you tell me NASCAR is more dangerous than the NFL anymore
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I'm not making that comparison. I'm only trying to point out that, like so many other comparisons between motorsports and stick-and-ball sports, comparing injury protocols is apples and suspension bridges.
 
StandOnIt said:
McDowell from 6 laps down to finish 13th.





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I have some mixed feelings.

First of all, it was a great job of minimizing the damage by McDowell and his team. Overcoming a parts failure had to feel like a win in many ways.

But as a paradox, I would like to see some more unforgiving conditions. I like long green runs that force more errors and attrition, with fewer lucky dogs and wave arounds. It is a part of the war, in my opinion.
They say Nascar fans are never happy, I guess I am guilty.

At the end of the day, it was a still a great job and story by McDowell and his team.
 
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