Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

Proves it can't even get it right.
I didn't get much further than the first sentence. I've said many times that a fan can't understand the playoff system fully, I didn't need the Chat thing to prove it. A simple point system right or wrong is the way to go. There isn't a perfect one, but this latest is a calamity of errors on top of errors.
 
I wasn't expecting you to clarify the statements. Just pointing out how the AI couldn't even render complete sentences.
Leon Muscovite says AI will soon be more intelligent than humans and in due course, more intelligent than the sum of all humanity.

It appears they have some work to do. 🙄
 
Shortly after professional sports across the spectrum begin awarding points to players and teams for most social media views and “likes”.
I believe there is a black mirror episode for that. If not…there should be.
 
Could be worse…could be college football.
both college football and nascar are mirror images of each other in a way. Both were sports built on regional following, rivalries and fanbases. College football napalming its regional conferences where pretty much every single game mattered in a regular season to chase the oh so sweet network tv money of a 12 team playoff, is almost a verbatim script to what nascar did with axing it's regular season points championship in pursuit of whatever it is that is used to crown a champion now. I'd say the college football playoff while cool to see the first round home games at home, leaves the sport a little more hollow without its regional rivalries and traditions. Plus it opens up incessant bitching from the fan base as most folks are already unhappy with how the playoff is playing out in its first year, which is something nascar fans (myself included) have been doing for 20 years now.
 
I don't really care what the playoff system is at this point. I just wish the broadcasters would stop bringing up the point standings every two seconds and showing the +/- cutline graphic for half the race.
Spending half of the race focusing on the 2 cars that are last to make the "cut line". That is why I started listening to NPR radio. They care about as much about that as I do lol.
 
I don't really care what the playoff system is at this point. I just wish the broadcasters would stop bringing up the point standings every two seconds and showing the +/- cutline graphic for half the race.
It’s a tradition I’ve settled into. The weather gets cooler as fall is approaching and as I’m settling into a 30-40 lap nap Jeff Burton awakes me from my slumber YELLING about playoff points, points cutoff and my personal favorite, points as they run.
 


Status quo for 2025 and they are appointing a committee to determine possible changes for 2026. Announcing it that way functions as a big trial balloon that will hover over this season's outcomes.

Obviously sports and racing series that have satisfactory systems for determining their champions don't have to spend off-seasons addressing when the next major format change might come. The problem is self evident, and the problem isn't "the fans".
 
both college football and nascar are mirror images of each other in a way. Both were sports built on regional following, rivalries and fanbases. College football napalming its regional conferences where pretty much every single game mattered in a regular season to chase the oh so sweet network tv money of a 12 team playoff, is almost a verbatim script to what nascar did with axing it's regular season points championship in pursuit of whatever it is that is used to crown a champion now. I'd say the college football playoff while cool to see the first round home games at home, leaves the sport a little more hollow without its regional rivalries and traditions. Plus it opens up incessant bitching from the fan base as most folks are already unhappy with how the playoff is playing out in its first year, which is something nascar fans (myself included) have been doing for 20 years now.
Didn't see this before, but I'll just say that there was often not a clear champion in college football historically. At all. There isn't any question as to whom won the NASCAR title in any given year, but there are multiple examples of years where the AP and Coaches polls disagreed, not to mention that champions were based on a vote of who was best in eras where it was totally impossible to see anywhere near as much football as we have today. That's a huge difference between NASCAR and College Football - the playoff was a response to public demand for a decisive national champion. NASCAR did not have the public demanding they create anything to fill the void of a champion who wins their title on the field. They had that already. What they had were people upset about Matt Kenseth.
 
They like what they're seeing, but they plan to put on a new pair of glasses sometime this summer, and maybe they'll like the view from those even better.
 
Well, they are moving the championship races to a rotational schedule in 2026 but leaving the superspeedways out of the rotation. I believe that's the first time I've heard NASCAR admit races at those tracks are crapshoots and not a legitimate test of drivers' skills.

I disagree with him on moving road courses down the list. Sure, some drivers are better on them but some drivers are better on ovals too.


>>...Kennedy also said that superspeedways would not be in consideration for the title-race rotation, qualifying his remarks with “never say never” but noting the unpredictable nature of that racing style. He also indicated that road courses “are probably lower on the list as we think about championship venues,” opting in favor of more traditional tracks...<<
 
I have faith that if they mess with the format, it will end up even more Mickey Mouse. It's hard to do, but I think they can.
I still anticipate only minor tinkering.

Here's a notion: predict what you think NASCAR will keep of the current playoff system, and / or what changes will be made.
  • I expect they'll keep 'Win and In', playoff points, 16 drivers, four drivers eliminated in each of the first three rounds, and only a single race to decide between the final four.
 
I still anticipate only minor tinkering.

Here's a notion: predict what you think NASCAR will keep of the current playoff system, and / or what changes will be made.
  • I expect they'll keep 'Win and In', playoff points, 16 drivers, four drivers eliminated in each of the first three rounds, and only a single race to decide between the final four.

Hey now, that'll be different . . . :cool:
 
They have already added a tournament inside a tournament so one network can have their own special whiz bang marketing genius event. I'm sure the marketing people are working hard to top that gem. Maybe a double points race series for amazon next year with tariff busting prices during the contest.
 
They have already added a tournament inside a tournament so one network can have their own special whiz bang marketing genius event. I'm sure the marketing people are working hard to top that gem. Maybe a double points race series for amazon next year with tariff busting prices during the contest.
Win the in season tournament and your guaranteed a spot in the final 8.
 
I know Junior has been a vocal proponent of a full season championship, and he did say it’s on the table still, but indicated it’s very unlikely.

Most realistic change they make is to move to a three- or four-race ‘final round’. And then just rotate the order in which they fall each year.
I thought full season had a shot with Jr bringing it up on his podcast and was very excited… but after this latest news of rotating the last race each year there is no chance a full season system is coming back. Like ever. So imo it’s dead, bury it….sadly.
 
I thought full season had a shot with Jr bringing it up on his podcast and was very excited… but after this latest news of rotating the last race each year there is no chance a full season system is coming back. Like ever. So imo it’s dead, bury it….sadly.
I liked Dale Jr’s idea of the last 3 races being the top 4 in points from the first 33 races racing for the title. That way no one can Mickey Mouse their way in and the worst case scenario is the 4th best driver of the year winning the title.
 
I know Junior has been a vocal proponent of a full season championship, and he did say it’s on the table still, but indicated it’s very unlikely.

Most realistic change they make is to move to a three- or four-race ‘final round’. And then just rotate the order in which they fall each year.
I don't see how that would work simply unless there is some creative points. The possibility of a tie would blow up their whole pop sickle stand not to mention the network finding time in their busy schedule of football games at that point to broadcast the race of the race. It could result a bit like dragging it out and another problem would be if one of them dominates and has the thing sewed up before the last jackpot race. Band aid on top of band aids IMO, not trying to rain on anybodies parade, it just seems to me it's another chance for yet another cluster. The damn thing is turning into a game show. Where is the bonus round? Free spin of the wheel for the leader on lap 50.
 
It’s a tradition I’ve settled into. The weather gets cooler as fall is approaching and as I’m settling into a 30-40 lap nap Jeff Burton awakes me from my slumber YELLING about playoff points, points cutoff and my personal favorite, points as they run.
We broke my brother from taking the naps in a human way without being gerbiled by Jeff Burton.

My brother fell asleep while Earnhardt was leading and gapping the field at Darlington. When he woke up, Dale was still in front, but we told him he had been behind the wall for repairs. He was now leading the field in track position, but he was actually about 25 laps behind due to the repair.

That sent my brother behind the wall or outside for some cigarettes and cursing, which further delayed him in figuring things out.
 
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