Preece Penalty

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Surprised this isn't being discussed around here... the NASCAR personalities and Reddit are melting down over this penalty to Preece.


Ryan Preece was penalized 25 points and fined $50,000 following an incident with Joe Gibbs Racing driver Ty Gibbs in Sunday’s NASCAR Cup Series race at Texas Motor Speedway.

Preece, driver of the No. 60 RFK Racing Ford, was penalized under Sections 4.3 and 4.4.A in the NASCAR Rule Book, which state NASCAR’s member conduct guidelines and specifically list “wrecking or spinning another vehicle, whether or not that vehicle is removed from competition as a result” as a potentially punishable offense.
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Apparently NASCAR listened to Preece's radio and considers his run in with Ty to be pre-meditated. A lot of people are saying KB's deal was purposeful but since he never admitted fault NASCAR let it slide. I think neither should be penalized, though I thought there was a chance Busch would be. Never thought they'd nab Preece over that scuffle.
 
This is the third post where it has been cussed and discussed. I don't think there should be penalties either. This isn't close to repeated Carl Edwards/Brad Keselowski level wrecking. I think the parties involved should have all had a talking to and a warning about doing it again.
I hope this isn't a trend by O'Donnell.
 
I am over Preece's "built myself up from nothing, I race them the way they race me, I am just a racer, everyman's driver" stuff. He has done a marvelous job of marketing himself
 
Revman said:
I am over Preece's "built myself up from nothing, I race them the way they race me, I am just a racer, everyman's driver" stuff. He has done a marvelous job of marketing himself
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But it's ok for Denny to run guys into the wall? Yeah....he drives a Toyota
 
I think the penalty on Preece was over the top or heavy-handed. The only real evidence that I am aware of is what Preece said, and he should have known better, but a 25-point penalty is still ridiculous in my opinion.

There simply wasn't anything very remarkable about the actual (physical) event when you consider what is typical, and if there were any consistency, these types of penalties would have already become the new normal years ago.

Consistency? NASCAR has allowed obvious last-lap (chicken****) bump and runs for the longest time. In most of those cases, the trailing car overdrives the corner or the apex with the intention of knocking the leading car (that he couldn't cleanly pass) out of the way. It is a contrived premeditated move.
There is also using 8 tires on late restarts that has become routine. Start on the inside overdrive the corner to run the car on the outside into the marbles or out of their normal groove.

I don't agree with those moves, but most fans applaud them and will often snark a driver for failing to move a car on the last lap for the win. If NASCAR wants to penalize Preece, they need to take a hard look at a much bigger problem that includes much greater consequences.

The biggest criticism I would have for Preece would be for admitting to what he did, but that is a slippery slope. The late race bumps and runs are obviously intentional in many cases, and I think policing it is a bigger can of worms than
Nascar will ever address.
 
My understanding is you’re allowed to wreck another driver as long as you don’t admit wrongdoing & it’s not egregious like the incident between Bubba & Larson a few years ago. Bubba obviously drove through Hocevar a few weeks ago & wrecked several cars. He was fine as he never admitted he did a thing deliberately. Right or wrong it’s just how things work unless NASCAR decides differently which can happen in an instant.
 
AlTerego said:
My understanding is you’re allowed to wreck another driver as long as you don’t admit wrongdoing & it’s not egregious like the incident between Bubba & Larson a few years ago. Bubba obviously drove through Hocevar a few weeks ago & wrecked several cars. He was fine as he never admitted he did a thing deliberately. Right or wrong it’s just how things work unless NASCAR decides differently which can happen in an instant.
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It gets tricky when they factor in how many cars the driver that was wrecked has wrecked himself. It's called the "did he have it coming rule?". The Bubba/Hocevar thing was used there. No, I am not serious, but this is the B.S. that happens when they start calling penalties. One driver gets one, another doesn't, round and round they go.

I think/hope the intent was to make Preece an example to let the field know to clean up the racing or this can happen to you.
Kyle got the benefit of the doubt because the SMT data showed he had his damaged car's wheel turned to driver but his car veered to passenger, but it's a bad look.

Preece was the pre meditated murdering of Ty. Many of us think Nascar should have used the "did he have it coming rule?" in Ty's case.
 
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