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  1. Hawaii808

    Kurt Busch appreciation thread

    While looking for info on the lawsuit, I noticed the KB shout out on 23XI’s Instagram profile. Wonder how long it’s been like that?
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Elon Musk has entered the chat... 2026 Tesla Cup
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    For free spending players, sadly yes. But the team owners? Oh yeah it's been a good ride. Just saw a short piece on Bloomberg where the Dolphins owner is looking to sell shares of the team valued at $8.1 BILLION
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Works pretty well for the NBA & NFL
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Part of me thinks that 23XI & FRM are the "proxies" for the other teams. Acting as the provocateurs for the sport, and with their silent support. Let's not forget NASCAR dumping a 100+ page document for the teams to sign at 5pm on a Friday and telling the them to sign by midnight or risk losing...
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    Random NASCAR Stuff to talk about.....

    And the NASCAR family just grew by one...
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    Random NASCAR Stuff to talk about.....

    MJ & Denny cracked open the vault to help. Question their motives (or not), they did it and I hope others follow.
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    Silly Season 2025

    Bubba with a multi year extension
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    Cup RACE thread --- Watkins Glen

    Three restarts and SVG hasn’t made a real dent. We may have found his weakness.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Wonder if the car per team limit is a factor here? Yeah I know Denny has been bloviating about the money part, but Hendrick and JGR got a huge gift of being (allegedly) the only teams that will be allowed to field four teams. If 23XI are ambitious enough to want to get to 4 charters/teams, this...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I'm internet clever, but not a savant...
  12. Hawaii808

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    <---furiously revising Google searches, looking for that doc
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The NASCAR/Business nerd in me would love to read that document
  14. Hawaii808

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    This time, probably not. But the teams have 7 years to plan.
  15. Hawaii808

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    That's well known, I'm talking about the business model of the teams owning the series. It's worked pretty well for the NFL too.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    MJ comes from the NBA and its business practices. The NBA as a league is owned by the teams. Imagine how NASCAR would be if charters were the basis of series ownership. It could get complicated with all the different series, but imagine…
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    Cup RACE thread --- Atlanta

    Couldn’t be worse than the France family.
  18. Hawaii808

    Cup RACE thread --- Atlanta

    If Roger were 20 years younger I’d beg him to buy out the France’s and run NASCAR
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    Cup RACE thread --- Atlanta

    …aaaaah nevermind
  20. Hawaii808

    Cup RACE thread --- Atlanta

    <—— look at my guy sneaking into the top 10
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