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Yup, it's the beginning of the end for Denny in the 11. Especially now that they have Briscoe in the 19, the rest of JGR's Cup driver lineup should have them set solidly for the next handful of years. Denny is on the back end of his career, long-time sponsor gone away, somewhat of a decline in...

@Jorge De Guzman I agree, it's tough to watch KB's career fizzling out like this. I know he wasn't winning a ton during his last few seasons at Gibbs either, but he can definitely do more with a good car under him that what he's got right now.

@Allenbaba what's the next shoe to drop?

I agree that the playoffs need an overhaul, but I think the sport is at risk of losing championship legitimacy over how many times the points system has changed. There used to be talk in the early Chase format days of, "without the Chase, so and so would have won the championship". Well now...

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I won't believe in a fourth manufacturer until we see them unloading in February. We've heard this for years.

One thing's for sure. C Bell must be very confident that he'll never need to seek a new ride with any Chevy team in the future.

This is a great point and is exactly why the next generation of bodies are going to be crossovers like the electric prototype they unveiled earlier this year.

It's a combination of everything. The playoffs format/championship feels empty to me. I haven't been able to find a driver to pull for like I did for Jeff Gordon, and now that he's been retired for almost ten years I think I just won't find that magic again. The new car looks great, but it...

The fanbase is statistically much smaller than it was during the peak of 2007. I've barely watched this year. Last year I tuned in every weekend. This year whenever I did turn a race on, it ended in a chaotic green-white-checkered. I miss when races would usually play out under green to the...

Because IMSA prototypes and NASCAR Cup Series are advertising to two different demographics. Notice how Toyota doesn't run the Lexus LC in Xfinity.

Neither of those things have any chance of happening.

I agree with those saying that if NASCAR doesn't issue penalties during the week then Phoenix is going to be a manufacturer/team orders circus from the first lap to the checkered flag. If there's no incentive not to use your manufacturer teammates as blockers, then why shouldn't you make the...

I think the situation with the 3, 1 and 23 was too complex for them to make a decision on right now in the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me if we heard about penalties this week for those teams.

Don't think of it like Byron as much as the team and Chevy. The 24 car was the beneficiary of race manipulation. It's nothing against Byron, it's the team.

My first reaction was to agree with this, but then think about it: If you remove the 24 and 20 only to put the 5 and 11 in, then Hendrick and Gibbs still win even after manipulating the race. Just different car numbers in the title hunt for them instead. What a mess.

DQ the 24 and the 20, plus the 3, 1 and 23. How is this much different from what Michael Waltrip Racing did back in 2013 at Richmond?

The 21 car never goes from Penske to the Wood Bros. The Wood Bros haven't had a functioning shop for years. The 21 is build at Penske alongside the 2/12/22, gets loaded into a hauler from Penske to the track and then back to Penske. The "Wood Bros" drivers, so Harrison right now, are in the same...

21 is literally a Penske car and team. The 21 car is the pride of Ford Motor Company and so that number and the Wood Bros name will never die, but that car is a bonafide Penske ride.

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