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  1. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    An unlimited EV arms race, yes, that's what the OEMs want for NASCAR, to raise the budgets F1-sky high and then potentially get outclassed by their competition anyway in a series that is only meant to serve as rolling billboards and automaker silouttes. I don't think you guys understand how...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    OEMs and NASCAR are pushing an electric CUV bodied stockcar for one reason only and that is marketing relevance. NASCAR is a traveling circus that holds it's competitors to a rulebook. They literally define the sandbox. When you play in a sandbox, you naturally stifle open innovation. The...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    What's in it for the sanctioning body, the team owners, or the OEMs to innovate in the field of EVs through racing? NASCAR itself isn't an engineering firm. The teams aren't made up of battery chemists, and racing teams (even in F1 believe it or not) notoriously don't pay very well for talent...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    The days of tech advancements trickling down to road cars is long gone. Racing for OEMs is 100% marketing and exposure. Racing series are making their vehicles more like what we have on the street to please the marketing side of things, not the other way around.
  5. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    Consider the entire environmental impact: https://earth.org/environmental-impact-of-battery-production/#:~:text=The%20additional%20environmental%20cost%20of,only'%20account%20for%2026%25. EVs largely just push the impact "out of sight, out of mind".
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    They aren't going to invest for the infrastructure improvements to them see said improvements go to waste if the masses don't then adopt EVs. It's a chicken-egg scenario. Your point of view is "if you build it they will come", but, what if they don't? The Hoover Dam didn't rely on every average...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    Respectfully, Charlotte, Atlanta and Houston don't generally influence what the rest of the country does. Like you said, it seems that we've established that this is definitely a thing in the Southeast, but the Southeast is it's own thing maybe more than local residents even realize. To me...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    People all this time later still love to ride horses for recreation and pay a lot of money for the privilege. It's sad these people can't just drive an EZ-GO golf cart in their free time instead and move on with the times already.
  9. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    I know you're smart enough to understand that a rise in fuel prices correlates to a rise in grocery prices.
  10. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    Ok, so again, you live surrounded by morons. "Carolina squat" was made fun of by truck owners in my area when that started gaining national notoriety. That is/was a very regional specific movement. Regarding political ads featuring trucks and fuel prices: politicians are trying to appeal to as...
  11. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    "Big cities" where, in North Carolina? The largest cities in the United States are absolutely not being swept by big truck culture now.
  12. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    I didn't even read all that. Wherever you live is not indicative of the entire country and it sounds like you just happen to know a bunch of idiots.
  13. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    How is this a hurdle against EVs when we have the Ford Lightning, Rivian, Hummer, and soon the Silverado EV and RAM Rev? Why can't big truck culture and EVs coexist in your view?
  14. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    New car sales are generally strong and rising: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/03/business/us-new-car-sales/index.html
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    They don't have a few years. Public interest has already hit a screeching halt and consumers have spoken with their wallets.
  16. cheesepuffs

    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    Aren't far off from what, recharging to full range in two minutes? The Ford Lightning can gain 65% charge in 36 minutes. People don't always have a half-hour to wait around, especially when traveling longer distances. Versus tapping your card at the gas pump and being on your way in a tenth of...
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    Yes, and there are full-size EV pickup trucks now, so what does that have to do with buyers purchasing EVs or not?
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    All Electric NASCAR Series on the Horizon

    I don't think the fossil fuel industry needed to do much here, though. The free market seems to have decided that EVs aren't in high demand, due to range anxiety for the most part. I still see hardly any charging stations in public places, and it's been what, eleven years since the gen-1 Leaf...
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    Cup Championship RACE thread

    " OH, WE GOT A SPIAN!!!"
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