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I don't even consider the Fiat part, if people can accept toyo, then just get over Fiat!! My family has owned mostly mopar my entire life. Not a bad one in the bunch.

You are right. That's why NASCAR is actively doing everything they can from their end to get them back.

Your point?? He is in charge now. It was a poorly written piece with nothing new except for a quote from someone who would not go on record. A a writer myself if you can get someone to put their name on it it means more. I did not read it as a never no way no how proposition. I read it as a...

He is headed to the 10 for next yr more than likely. Bubba will get 43 then.

That says very little. It does very little to dissuade me from thinking they will be back by 2020. Which should coincide with the Gen 7 car. There are no official quotes from Sergio in the article. So I wouldn't give up just yet.

What somebody says and what they do can be two different things. I trust nothing until the press conferences. Saying I want to does not at this point = I am staying.

That's a good point. Could very well use the 88 situation as contract leverage. One thing I am sure of I fully expect a big name proven winner in the 88. It won't be someone like Patrick or a rookie.

http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/06/13/brad-keselowski-i-hope-to-continue-with-team-penske/ Something .cooking..

Add to that the Kes to the 88 rumor might be picking up steam, the Woods could lose Blaney to the 2.

My fav was 2005 Chase for the Cup. I had a one handed PS2 controller and could race well at certain tracks.

Did I say it was? The devs need to think of us. Auto braking option would be a nice start.

Need to give those of us that are disabled some sort of a controller scheme that we can be competitive with. The last game was sorry all but looks.

And that would be fine. I just find it hard to buy a car or lease one from a competitor, then take a factory engine which they all do that, and win a race with a competitors car. Takes a little away from the whole thing.

I just don't like the idea of sat teams. If you can't get the job done alone then walk away. Petty stopped building htheir own cars at the end of 2016 for the record.

The only reason Penske is on board with the Woods is because his driver is in the seat. And he will be taken out and put in the third Penske ride if sponsor is found. Penske would not help any any competitor unless there is something in it for him.

Nope they are full on Roush, and yes I would put an asterisk by it if they won.

Great win good to see the 21 get a win, but it really is the third Penske team, just like the 43 is the third RFR, and the 78 and 77 are Gibbs teams right down to the crews in that case.

and some drivers can gain 5 spots or so

Still think they are coming back. 2017 we get announcement of return, 2018 (see 1999), 2019 return to trucks, 2020 return to Cup

I admire your dedication to your brand we need more of that in a world where I am satisfied as long as it runs and has four wheels it's ok with me. I come from a Mopar family. Its not all that have been owned. my sisters have switched to GM, but other than that anytime a Ford or Chevy has...