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Here are some facts. At NASCAR's peak at the end of 2005, there were 19 million viewers for the season finale. It's now averaging 2.86 million per race over the last year or so. I am not a math whiz apparently but I'm pretty sure that's BAD. Then there's this: . Hopefully the Netflix...

True...Forgot about that. No idea what they will do then.

What facts? Where?

You're always and extremist. No one is saying the sport is not making money because once it's not it will be gone. That said, it's fact that NASCAR's popularity and attendance are way down since the peak in the early 2000's. If you don't think that's true you're in denial. Just in my own...

They are tricking you too? I am being 100% serious on this. Have you been to a race this season? I had the same opinion as you until I went to one. I was at Loudon earlier this year and at first glance it looked pretty packed but then I realized they have completely removed one section of...

So interesting news that it looks like the NFL is going to go to an 18-game schedule which would move the Super Bowl to President's Day weekend which is when the 500 has been running the last few seasons. I wonder what NASCAR will do? Personally - I know this will never happen because of...

Well the reality is that if it's "exhausting" you don't have to read. LOL. I think you're right that NASCAR is not looking at it right now but maybe that'[s the problem. Fans just keep walking and maybe they should listen. I am pretty surprised that you would want the old system back. Chase...

I notice you keep making the point that it's been a long time but really what does that matter? I don't think anyone (including myself) wants the old system back 100% as it rarely produced dramatic championship battles. I am only making the point that in my opinion it would be better now than...

I agree. There's lots of things they could do but overall, I remember they started the playoffs and this 16-car elimination by round because they wanted something similar to other sports culminating in a "game-7 type moment" which the old system hardly ever produced. 1992 may have been the...

I think that's exactly what they need to get rid of. "Win and you're in" (even though technically untrue potentially) is and has always been stupid. I'd like to see more of the classic points system with maybe more bonus points for wins until the "playoffs" when you do let the top 16 in and...

I hope he is enjoying it and it recharges him. I doubt he will ever be a serious regular contender again but NASCAR is better if Rowdy Busch is in the mix more. As much as it sucks having a 2 week break, I wish NASCAR would do this every year and just race until the week before Thanksgiving...

That wasn't the point though. Stan was bitching about the playoff format because even though he thinks Larson has been dominant this year he understands he may well not win the title because of the current format. I was just pointing out that even in the old one he is not dominating. He's...

Only after Stan provided some racing reference info comparing Larson to Chase which was not even my argument to begin with. He said the format is junk basically and stated Larson was "dominant" this year which to me he's not. He's really good but not that far ahead. I only pointed out that he...

Very true as in 2020 Chase killed it there and Larson in 2021. Since then though it seems like Ford and Toyota have focused more on it understanding that if you don't ren well there you are most likely not winning a title. Very smart really. I hope Chevy gets their collective heads out of...

Actually it was not me who started complaining about the current format - read back bro. Despite how I feel about it, this format is what we've got and whichever champion comes out of it is the champ and that's that. That's really the only FACT anyone can throw out there. I have also not...

I am not trying to make that argument and even said Larson is having the best season - just not dominant. It's funny - what year was it that Jeff Gordon set the world on fire and won 10 races but lost to Texas Terry Labonte for the title? 96? Who had the "better" year that year? In 85...

There's an interesting story..... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/denny-hamlin-had-an-interesting-exchange-with-chase-elliott-video/ar-BB1qxIii?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=d3d3d6444f824e04be11a2730db2957f&ei=19 I'd really like to know what was on that paper. LOL

LOL. Dude, Larson is doing really well and having a fine season but he's just not "dominant." You want to see "dominant?" Check out Jeff Gordon's 1997 or Kevin Harvick's 2020. It seems like you are just setting up excuses for if Larson loses already saying the format is garbage and produces...

I care because the topic was how bad this system sucks and how much better the old system was. One of NASCAR's biggest problems is that it has constantly changed formats to try to attract new fans who are not ever going to be fans and continues to alienate the fans that are trying to stay loyal...

But this does not show points for the old season long classic format which is what I was talking about. Chase's average finish is 2.5 spots better - that's a pretty wide margin really. Yes Larson would close some of that gap for bonus points for laps led but Chase has some of those too...