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    Cup RACE thread --- Loudon

    Ohhhhh...Gotcha. I forget sometimes that many people are not capable of looking at things objectively when their driver is involved. I admitted if I was a fan of the 5 I'd be pissed but it's not like what Denny did there was anywhere on the level of, oh I don't know just for example, what...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Loudon

    What are you not surprised by? Not following.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Loudon

    Wow.....That's some pretty intriguing stuff.....Were they serious? That was good hard racing. Yeah - If you're a fan of the 5 you are not happy with if but the 11 was faster and pushed the issue a little. That has to happen at tracks that are hard to pass at. I like Kyle throwing it right...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Loudon

    Well, what a mess that was. That's really all I can say to sum it up. I know the field was really jumbled there at the end but my biggest disappointment as a fan is that if you root for a Chevy driver you will not be getting a championship this year as when the field was NOT jumbled and on the...
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    New Hampshire Pre-Race Thread

    Yeah, really not sure why they didn't move it up further to like 12-1pm? TV deal maybe? I remember back in the day turning the race on at noon and cars already being on the track doing pace laps and Bob Jenkins coming on and saying "Hello fans, welcome to NASCAR on ESPN and here's your...
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    New Hampshire Pre-Race Thread

    I live about 2 hours away and it's POURING here. This is really too bad for New England. I know there's all this talk about "New England weather" but we are not really known for a ton of rain. Last year we did get a lot but this year has been really nice for the most part until this weekend...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Iowa

    What a pleasant surprise to have such a good race with all the concern about the track going in. Some take aways for me....Seems like the 12 car is really finding speed that had been lacking earlier in the year and will be a threat for the title for sure. Denny Hamlin...What happened? It's...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    I didn't start watching NASCAR until 89 so I didn't get to see him but I used to work with a big Earnhardt fan who would openly admit straight up that if Richmond raced a full healthy career Earnhardt would not have 7 titles.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    It is quite an accomplishment but a very small sample size to some. Not sure he can keep this pace up for the long-term like JJ and JG. Honestly what jumped out to me more was Tim Richmond's numbers. What could have been.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    Very true but I think for Chase it's more synonymous with the new car overall and RC's just reflect it a little more because he so dominant in them for a while. Chase had such a good feel for the last gen car. Watching him blast through the pack on the Roval after hitting the wall that year...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    I don't think he's the most talented of all time. He's great and in the conversation but I'd put Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart ahead of him at least.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    Wow sorry to hear that. I have been through some very tough times in life but my health is one thing I have always been very fortunate in. Hoping for the best for you and your mother.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    Yeah but he's usually right there and if not for the worst timed caution at the Roval last year he wins that easily. I think with this new car the playing field is more level so it's more about strategy like yesterday but Chase still does really well on RC's. More wins will come for him but AG...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    Gotta disagree there. Chase waited a little longer to pit and his lap times were at times faster some laps- then other times not. Larson did a better job of getting through traffic after the pit stop. Larson was faster and probably beats Chase regardless but to say he was "not nearly" as fast...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

    Very pleasantly surprised that it was a good race with the repave. It's a good example of how a strategy-driven race can still be excited. On that note I am still left scratching my head on the strategy AG called for Chase leaving him out hose extra laps he was losing time and already in their...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Gateway 2024

    Well maybe we disagree with what "gimmick" means but what I am saying is that this playoff format overall that puts such a premium on winning is meant to attract fans but in most cases the fans who are attracted by it are not true fans that have any attention span or appreciation for the sport...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Gateway 2024

    Technically true of there are more than 16 winners but that's rare so it's basically win and you're in
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    Cup RACE thread --- Gateway 2024

    I almost wanted to bite on this and say I'd bet my pension he's not going to advance but then again you just never know. A few unlucky DNF's from contenders and/or another run like yesterday for him and he'd be through.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Gateway 2024

    Yeah - I hate win in you're in. Always been a stupid gimmick to attract fans who don't understand that running up front on the regular is far more impressive than a fluke win here and there. Having guys like Suarez and Cindric in there who would be hard pressed just to make it out of the round...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Gateway 2024

    Hard to put blame on either one of them. That was almost the definition of a racing deal where both probably could have backed down but neither would.
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