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Hahahaha for sure safe

True, you got me on that one. I guess I was speaking more in terms of competitiveness than on the fact they they 'disappeared' outright. As you said, they were always a nagging threat to be competitive but something (or someone) always kept them from winning. That competitive threat did seem to...

Those three I mentioned were still quite competitive even during Stewart's and Gordon's reign though. We didn't start to see ringers disappear until Montoya and Ambrose came along. They proved that you could run the full season and still do really well on road courses. Of course it could just be...

Pruett, Fellows, and Said were definitely threats in the early 2000s. I think we started to see the shift occur once Montoya and Ambrose came along though.

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Yeah I think he's relying on the assumption that they never mismatch cars. Sometimes what was once the 48 car will be part of the 9 team, etc. If he hasn't already, Kenseth will drive one of Stenhouse's cars at some point in which case this point will be irrelevant.

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I think Bob is a feminist

Against most probably yes. I still think the Busch brothers, Allmendinger, and maybe Logano would give them a run for their money on a road course even in lesser equipment though.

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Yes it's me, Samantha Busch. Johali is a genius.

As I stated, money shouldn't be a problem for a corporation like NASCAR. If they want to keep drivers and fans, they must put in the effort required to protect them. We aren't talking about civilian life here so whatever roads we drive on are irrelevant. NASCAR has learned the lesson multiple...

It's actually not like that at all. You do the best job you can to protect the drivers, which means having a safer barrier on every wall around the track. It doesn't matter if you "predict" drivers will hit that area or not. Assume that they will. Money should not be an issue for an entity like...

Exactly.

8.5, would've been better if Kyle Busch got a waiver to bring out his backup car

Classic strawman. You just brought in "suing" which is exactly what I precluded from this discussion in my previous post. It was never about suing the series for anything. It's about being allowed to qualify for something that the series has rules for, and the competitor wasn't able to meet...

How so? The issue here is if he should've been allowed a waiver to compete for something the sanctioning body helped to cause. It never implied anything that would be detrimental to the series like a monetary payout.

Lol once again these statements link together. It's the track's responsibility to install safety equipment that meets NASCAR'S standards. If NASCAR doesn't think a track meets their standards, they won't race there. Do you really think that NASCAR doesn't have any input on what the track's...

I saw that, but it doesn't preclude me from asking questions about your opinion. Sure it's a dangerous sport, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort to make things safer. His situation was avoidable if there was a safer barrier, which NASCAR has discretion over. That doesn't have any...

How is it bogus if NASCAR indirectly caused him to miss races? They're in charge of competitors safety, and they failed Kyle.