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Considering they've been working on it for a few weeks I'm going with cheated up Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

They were cheating so I did still isn't a good argument. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

But 2 wrongs don't make a right. The 23 slowed for him and he rode the wall Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Why not complain? U know these guys are on a short leash to begin with Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

I think you pretty much nailed it Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

The point I was making is the teams are dictating the price of these things and then complaining they make no money Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Either way, they were acquired at no cost Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Ok I'm calling it now: Carl Edwards with Kia Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Haven't heard this one before...... Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Neither of them have had to try to recover the money they spent on overpaying for charters. We'll see how it shakes out but the hardship argument is very tough for me. -teams were given charters for free by nascar. Teams determined the price of them, not naacar. - nascar presented the teams...

That plan would be 32 chartered teams and 4 open. Really right now they only have 30 chartered teams committed to running next season. If this is what is really going on it will really devalue the charts quickly. Unless this gets settled quickly there's 2 charters looking for a home. More...

At this point you would think SHR needs to move on the charters. I can't see how anyone can afford to wait til December to put a team together now. The cars seem like the easy part to me, the hard part is people and sponsorship.

Gene you have a call on line #1- "Hey Gene it's Brad I hear you might be in the market to sell a charter" Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

At this point what does nascar have to gain by settling? Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

The team said they agreed with his decision prior to missing the appearance. So I'm not so sure about that. Either way nascar is beyond dumb if it doesn't get thrown out on appeal. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Actually no, I'm always on vacation then. Peak deer season lol! Even then I take time out to vote. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

The infractions were committed by team Toyota and team chevrolet. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.... Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

This one baffles me. Fine someone for going to vote in person? They claim they would have let him out early in the afternoon to make it back to vote in person. They do realize he has to go back to Wisconsin right? Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

So is tomorrow an actual deadline for this ruling or was it just a projected day? Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk