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  1. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Charlie, I get the confusion, really do. But NASCAR’s charter system was never, repeat NEVER set up to become the property of the teams. They were never the equivalent of a franchise. Both at the beginning, and ever since, they were a contract vehicle, made to do precisely as described just a...
  2. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I’m sure NASCAR will sit on those team’s “expired charters” until the cases are fully resolved. With other slots available to be offered, no need to “use” the abandoned ones until later, if ever. Pockrass earlier post indicating it would cost extra to add more charters, since they can’t further...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    No, I believe there would still be 4 open slots, which would likely be taken most every race by the non-chartered teams from the plantiff’s teams. But there is no reason for NASCAR to award 4 additional charters just because they could (theoretically) due to availability. More likely this is...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    They should have considered these options before choosing not to sign charters, when they KNEW their drivers had contracts with these clauses (this is the RISK factor they took but want the court to spare them from). “Having your cake and eating it too” is not considered acceptable business...
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    The Attendance Thread

    Attendance has been really strong this year!
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Richmond

    8 - was looking like a pure tire strategy race but then the Blaney & Dillon duel flashed us back to old school short track Richmond, and set the table for a good finish.
  7. Conover

    NASCAR Pick 'Em 2025 - Richmond

    Congrats to the Austin Dillion pickers. I was initially right there with you but talked myself into choosing Hamcrap cause he “owns” Richmond. I only halfway pull for him one race a year (when I choose him) and of course he let me down (cause he knows I hate him 🤬🤭). At least he finished 10th...
  8. Conover

    2026 NASCAR Schedule

    NASCAR, here is my proposal for the future of the All-Star race: Hold the race at various local short tracks, changing the venue each year. The only requirements would be they must have lighting and can hold a minimum of 8,000 fans in the stands. Make it a Saturday night event. Maybe have a...
  9. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Not exactly. The information presented to the court (THIS judge) in December 2024 was manufactured by FrontRow’s GM, was false, which helped gain the injunction against NASCAR, and led to the appeal to the higher circuit court, which destroyed THIS judge’s previous ruling. It was a LIE. Note the...
  10. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The judge did not. NASCAR’s motion presented the evidence that these actions were taken by the plantiffs. The names were redacted in the documents but by all accounts it appears to have been the GM of front row. I’m sure you read those as SOI posted them on this thread. For a judge to summarily...
  11. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Yes, this judge says please ignore the illegal manipulation and false representation of evidence manufactured by the plantiff’s general manager….that is just getting in the way of forcing NASCAR to settle this in their favor. I mean literally, the last paragraph of the statement posted by BP...
  12. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    This judge’s decisions and directives have demonstrated extreme bias. His previous decision was obliterated by the higher circuit court’s 3 judge panel, then destroyed by the full panel. Once again, his commentary attempts to disparage NASCAR’s efforts to demonstrate underhanded activity while...
  13. Conover

    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Watkins Glen

    9 - WG is a great road course and love the challenge it gives to Cup drivers.
  14. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Watkins Glen

    Why did Bell not come into the pits at the stage 2 caution? I know he’d be way back, but playing a “hope for a perfect caution” game is risky.
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    Jamie Mac best color guy ever?

    To each his (or her) own, but I do not concur.
  16. Conover

    Xfinity RACE thread — Watkins Glen

    Poor kid…they put all that advertising crap on the top of the car. He tried to stand, his window net made him slip a bit, then he slipped completely and fell badly. I hear an ambulance. Connor was speaking with medical personnel, but putting him on a backboard.
  17. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Call this whatever you want…these are pretty serious allegations by NASCAR. If these teams are essentially manufacturing evidence, or are found to have unlawfully manipulated claims against NASCAR to intimidate other teams, that could lead to lots of consequences. Perhaps sanctions, certainly a...
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    NASCAR on USA 2025

    Yeah, I probably exaggerated how the opening montage was better than anything else, but it was well done. Has Logano walking in to some bar out in a dusty rural area, and it’s full of current drivers plus Richard Petty. They’re playing cards, shooting pool, and then it merges with drivers of the...
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    NASCAR on USA 2025

    Regarding the Iowa broadcast: > Really liked the new season race opener. Best part of NBC’s broadcast. > I don’t particularly like Diffy but he did himself well. Had some odd phrases that didn’t make sense. The gerbils were insufferable. I thought LeTart was getting oxygen via a lung hose so...
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Iowa

    5 - and this perhaps is why NASCAR hasn’t committed to a race there next year…at least so far.
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