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    What did you think of the Martinsville call?

    I don’t think you can worry about what happened yesterday as it’s just what NASCAR has become. One week they’ll throw a yellow for an incident and the next week ignore the same thing. Race control seems to be run by Montessori students & we’ve all seen how nonsensical Nascar has been for...
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Martinsville

    X I don’t think it would be fair for me to rate the race as gimmicks, overtime & manipulations do me in. I’m going to have to start watching the race ending first to see if it’s one worth watching!
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The culture thing escapes me but I think that has more to do with my age. I did throw out all my leisure suits and double knit clothing a few years back though.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I’ve had fantastic ownership experiences with Toyota but after adding a Subaru to the fleet I made the switch to the quirky car brand. I did so because it was what was best for me. To me all the cars are the same but just have different manufacturer’s decals on them. That may be incorrect but...
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Homestead

    8.5 I liked how the race was organic & especially that there was no bogus overtime!
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    I was never bothered by what you described or when the championship was won with a few races left. I liked it better than the lottery system today. This my personal preference and I understand that others think differently.
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    I don’t recall any fans clamoring for the playoffs or the CoT. In fact it could be argued that those 2 things are responsible for many fans exiting the series.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The way I see it is 2 teams that participate in NASCAR Cup are involved in legal action against NASCAR. I realize Jim France is also a defendant but it still doesn’t change my perception. Of course my perception could be dead wrong. The hyperbole of the legal documents are amusing and I look...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The person that composed that tweet needs remedial training.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I can’t see 3 days ever returning due to cost.
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    Kyle played by the rules and won. A conversation about the merits of his championship & NASCAR’s waiver is fair too although I think the subject has been beaten to death.
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    In Defense of Joey Logano

    I’d rather be lucky than good any day. Joey was fortunate to make it to the current round but he’s just as deserving of a final 4 berth than anyone. I don’t care for the playoffs or lottery championship but I respect those that do.
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Las Vegas

    8 I suspect there was lots of good racing in the pack but NBC didn’t show much of it.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I was surprised when I read that 23XI and FRM’s charters will be put back in inventory at season’s end. Like you said this could be the end of FRM & 23XI will be leaving a lot of the purse on the table. Maybe this is NASCAR dropping the hammer or a negotiation ploy or both.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I love this thread. It has featured discussion about the issue between NASCAR and 2 of its race teams, flatulence, Jim “I don’t like spiders and snakes” Stafford and perhaps even Little Jimmy Dickens! I think we’re back to the issue at hand but I’m not betting on how long😁
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    Cup RACE thread --- Roval

    Maybe he’s taking a break from the same old same old.
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    todays bonehead

    It could be something as simple as NASCAR wanting 1 less Chevy in order to keep a similar number manufacturers in the next round. Personally I don’t think NASCAR had anything to do with this. It’s likely that something happened when Bowman hit the tarmac hard. Or HMS may have removed 17...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Roval

    I agree as I doubt Kyle is making the kids hang on by themselves.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Roval

    I can’t imagine any team let alone a playoff team trying to sneak through a 17 pounds lighter car. I think something happened to the car when Alex did the Evel Knievel thing.
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    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Roval

    8.5 I really enjoyed watching this race as it was organic and I don’t mind when a team puts a whipping on the field.
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