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No doubt he belongs…but he’s still a dick. Not just play acting as a black hat….a genuine stinky nasty one. We’ve all known these types. His presence on the track makes for great fun when he screws up his pit speed, or gets wrecked out of the race, or has a hissy fit because, in his narcissistic...

Yes, you sat almost where we were, about mid-height, kind of between the finish line and entrance to turn 1. Brought our son and daughter-in-law with us…it was her first NASCAR race. We had part of turn 1 and all of turn 2 blocked by massive big tent setup in the infield for the concerts. Then...

This is near where we live now. We flew up and went to the first race in 2022, the debacle where Hamcrap was trying to wreck Ross everywhere, slowing in front of him, basically exhibiting road rage multiple times during the race. Of course NASCAR did nothing at that moment or afterward to him...

Isn’t life funny? One day Chase Briscoe is living his dream, racing on his idol’s team and doing OK. Then the team closes shop, and Chase is wondering what could happen next? Turns out his new ride is far better than anything he had with Stewart!

How about that Jones Boy! Needed that performance badly. Despite our lead the crew chief is telling me we’re two laps short on fuel. Lots of race left. Need some good runs and luck the rest of the way.

I just feel like it’s a Byron or Bell year, predicting Bell.

8.5 - with the extra 1.5 coming from the final 7 laps.

It’s obvious why many compare Conner to Gordon. Jeff made some amazing moves very early in his Baby Ruth career…moves that define instinct and touch. Same with The Prodigy. It’s like Neo in The Matrix…doing things so quickly and precisely! Great run and win…glad he got the opportunity to take...

Perhaps it was done to be sure their contracted teams couldn’t do irreparable harm by aligning as partners then using lawsuits to do exactly what the MJHamcrap sandwich is doing right now. Teams get access to a lot of important info, intellectual property and are intrinsically tied into the...

I’ve said many times I despise the man as a driver, and see his narcissism evident in his home and professional life. People who are around him (within the sport) have said he’s a prick. Hate is a strong word, and I try not to hate anyone, especially those I do know. But Hambone is a certified...

And ah HA! You ADMIT you want to gut NASCAR! 😂 I’d only be on the jury if they do a change of venue out of state…but if they do, I will admit under oath, that I consider Denny Hamlin a narcissistic self possessed wrecker of good cars, good drivers and numerous female relationships. He is a cad...

Thanks Revman! Completely agree.

I’ve been busy today so, just not going to spend more time trying to explain further. No worries, no blaming others who have differing opinions or ideas. We are all passionate racing fans. At the end of it all, we have NO impact on any of this. Just promise me, if any of you get picked to be...

Charlie, and Blaze, I would bet you both agree that the “charter” has a value….am I correct in that assumption? I mean it has to have a value, since to “buy” a charter has cost anywhere from 20 to 40 million $ over the last several years…correct? If we all agree on that, and the decision is...

Indeed, and you help highlight just how DIFFERENT this racing business is from all of those! It is Jordan wanting to push and legally coerce NASCAR into a similar franchised model, thereby grabbing much more wealth for the teams than they would have relative to any other racing platform. Why is...

Precisely. This was the direction Jordan was pushing the teams to go unless NASCAR radically altered the provisions of the charter contracts. The initial position of how much the teams should receive in revenue was enormously excessive compared to previous terms. NASCAR ownership positioned for...

Because NASCAR never received any compensation for the charters, as they are contract leases, not property. If the court wants the teams to own these charters forever, similar to franchises, then make the teams all pay NASCAR market value for them. Secondly, the teams would really never...

Really good summary thanks for posting. Jordan was allowed to speak by cartoon Kessler outside the courtroom. He said: "I've been a fan of the game for a long period of time,” Jordan said. “When we first started this whole process, I've always said that I want to fight for the betterment of the...

Part of the challenge in antitrust cases is to determine size/scale relative to the business, and if a business entity is using methods or means to ILLEGALLY restrict competition. A business is NOT a monopoly if they create a superior product that leads the marketplace, even one as dominant in...

I think it was from post 3508 on page 88. The really lengthy summary. There are also some X posts out there with various quotes. Also @aunty dive, please tell us what exactly NASCAR has proven to have done which violates the Sherman Act? Mere business negotiation and corporate alliances do NOT...