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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The only people who could offer it are NASCAR. RTA couldn't generate their own charters.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I went to Dave and Busters yesterday with my wife - hey, it's 1/2 price game night, OK? Anyhow, they have this: https://www.laigames.com/games/nascar-pit-stop Right by it was this: https://www.icegame.com/games/smash-n-win-nba-edition/ And this was nearby...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Here's some more fun stuff: (clearing out my incorrect take)
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    That is literally the language being used: "evergreen". Not "pseudoevergreen" or "somewhat evergreen" but "evergreen", and it existing in this format will also make it difficult for NASCAR to just break that later at will. Also extending the charters past the next rights period was not happening...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    What is the comparison point? The 2024 net income for TKO Group (who owns the UFC, WWE, and PBR) had net income of 6.4 million against total revenue of 2.8 billion. NASCAR has 330 million in debt against 1.1 billion in assets and made (net income) 600 million dollars in the last two years.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I'm not misconstruing anything. They didn't sign the agreement and instead filed suit against NASCAR. NASCAR apparently thinks enough of their suit to now give them the charters forever (which was the sticking point) but doesn't want to give them the money they'd be owed from keeping the...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    That relates to the transaction of 23XI buying the SHR charter; the money and charter for that transaction were put in escrow depending on the result of the trial. While a settlement under the terms discussed a few days ago would put that transaction through, what it wouldn't do is lead to 23XI...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Just going back to the Athletic piece, it is two things: 1) The legal fees: also *HILARIOUS* to me that anyone thinks the defendant in a trial willing to settle it would get their legal fees reimbursed. But I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that NASCAR doesn't want to pay the...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    <snip> :blinks:
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    2026 IndyCar News / Misc.

    It's been time to step away for years. Good luck to Marco though.
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    The Announcers Thread

    This is a legitimate possibility. The news that they were handed off to Versant and Versant wants a playoff is about what I expected: NASCAR is going to let the tail continue to wag the dog by having a spun off media entity with no name recognition and a bunch of dying cable networks with...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    NASCAR are the defendant in the lawsuit and they're agreeing to the terms set forth by 23XI and FRM because they are concerned that this going further will in fact hurt them a lot worse. Unsurprisingly, they are being asked to pay money for things like "share of charter funds" for charters they...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Counter claim by NASCAR thrown out. So much for the folks hoping cartel charges against the teams were gonna stick (lmaoooooo at that notion). Anyhow, Jordan Bianchi seems to think the chances of a settlement are high enough he just wrote something paywalled at The Athletic about it.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I am not even the biggest fan of golf but I feel like the LIV/PGA thing is being totally misrepresented here. The Saudis set up a separate golf league with an entirely different structure (literally team golf) and then paid the golfers enormous sums of money to move over to golf for LIV. They...
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    iF hE cOuLD jUst PerFoRm wHeN iT maTTeRs
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    Luckily for everyone, Joey Logano and his 11 top ten finishes for 2025 is still in the game. If he wins one of the next two weeks, he pushes out someone who won more and finished higher in the standings on average every week yet again for another year. Sure, all the data suggests the fans hate...
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    I mean, this the same logic as the people (and they exist) who say that Indycar's split didn't mean anything because it always would have wound up like it is now. That's speculation posing as evidence. There's an intervention here with NASCAR, there's been an experiment run for 20 years, there...
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    2025 High Limit Sprint Car Racing

    Rico and Reutzel being face/heel is pretty fun as a dynamic. Kinda prefer Rico wins given Reutzel had to sit out a minute and it feels weird he might win a championship by getting points based on his average finishes.
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    Why is she disagreeing in the first place? Do you think it's the job of journalists to try and convince people of their personal positions or relate information? This isn't something like "Danielle Trotta believes genocide is bad". This is literally Danielle Trotta telling fans on social media...
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity Whether or not the notion is dead is a different thing. I mean, which hive mind are we talking about? Unless you're agreeing with her that she's actually part of NASCAR, which makes her less of a journalist and more of a marketing...
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