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  1. Conover

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Easy there Aunty. One can recognize and comment on a judge’s rulings with prejudice, especially this one. Bell’s legal basis for some of these decisions are shaky. His application of law in earlier rulings proved invalid when the higher 4th circuit court ruled against him unanimously, not once...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    This has always been the next option for NASCAR (appeal to the 4th circuit court), which they have successfully done to counter Bell’s previously horrible judgements. Bell’s written rulings smack of clumsy juxtaposition, claiming NASCAR’s filing contends one position while their opposition to...
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    Does Denny Hamlin ever get in a NASCAR Cup Series car again?

    Recall this statement from Hamcrap earlier this year: "You can either get on the bandwagon or you can get run over by it" 😫 He had the TV announcers and press all piled on for Phoenix. Oh well…🚑
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    Does Denny Hamlin ever get in a NASCAR Cup Series car again?

    The pit stop strategy killed his chance no doubt. If Hamlin overrules his crew chief and takes 2, he may have beaten Larson to the line and hold a championship trophy. But he didn’t, and they got dumped. Drivers depend on their CC’s a lot, but sometimes have to make the tough call. All my...
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    Does Denny Hamlin ever get in a NASCAR Cup Series car again?

    No way Hambone quits. First, he’s a narcissist, and that means he needs constant validation of how right he is on everything. He also lusts for a championship, despite his comments about how it isn’t that important, and won’t define his legacy. BS. Anybody with a house full of HIMSELF on every...
  6. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Phoenix

    No really it’s not hate, it’s about the CONSTANT NONSTOP about him from the gerbils. It would be the same if it was any other driver who they wouldn’t shut up about. Frankly you and I agree on how ridiculous this 4 car championship race is, and the fact they focus on nobody else. It’s horrible.
  7. Conover

    NASCAR Pick 'Em 2025 - Phoenix

    Congrats @kkfan91 on your championship! I might have caught you if I’d not had so many bum finishes late, but your system was a WINNER! Thank you Blaney for a final win this season. The K&K Insurance team has achieved our highest season finish ever.
  8. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Phoenix

    Got so sick of their constant lather over Hamlin. It was vomit 🤮 over and over….and I get that was the fairytale storyline, but they just….NEVER……STOPPED!
  9. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Phoenix

    And for everyone here who says we should just use a points system…Hamcrap wouldn’t even be in the hunt. So IF he had won today, Denny’s championship would be as empty as anyone’s ever in the “championship race” format. So good for Larson.
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    Cup RACE thread --- Phoenix

    WAY TO GO LARSON! Hamcrap can’t get it done, and yes it was a caution setting it up, but that’s racin’.
  11. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Phoenix

    Well I’m the anti Hamcrap of course, so don’t hate on me for pulling against him. Tired of all the Denny smaltz and dog licking from the NBC gerbils (so thick you can’t wash it off with a curry comb), I still want him to get a speeding penalty, whine about something wrong with his car, then park...
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    Go Chase Briscoe!

    You’re a truly good man and driver Chase! I’m pulling for you today! PS - Don’t let ANYONE make you do dirty work or acquiesce to help Hamcrap win. You’ve earned your ticket, and deserve a championship as much as anyone.
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    Nascar Cup Series Championship Phoenix Pre Race Thread.

    Enjoy! I know you’ll have a great time no matter what happens. Any chance JGR has put a governor on Briscoe’s machine to keep him from ruining Hamcrap’s chance at glory? For a guy who’s won so many poles he hasn’t shown the speed I expected since coming off the truck.
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    Nascar Cup Series Championship Phoenix Pre Race Thread.

    I really have come to like and appreciate Chase Briscoe as a person and a driver. I’ll be pulling for him, followed by Byron. I’m OK if Larson wins it, do not want Hamcrap to get it, but understand there is a lot of sentiment for him to FINALLY win a title.
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    Agree, I don’t see them leaving some form of “playoffs”. Bianchi speculated on 3 possibilities; full season, existing 10 race chase, or a 3-3-4 scenario. If they must have a “playoffs”, I’d prefer to just crown a regular season champion after 32 races, then have the top 5 finishers eligible for...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    That was well written and sincere. While I do not believe all teams are as efficient and thrifty as they could be, I know the battle to control expenses AND stay top shelf competitive is real. I do not see the revenue stream granted by NASCAR as the issue or the answer. Now that NASCAR has...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    LOL, I WAS speaking to the Bianchi article not attempting to claim some other source knowledge. I get your bias is every bit as cemented as what you claim mine is. So be it, we all have opinions, but I am realistic enough to not claim something not grounded in relative facts. Both sides will...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Link to Pockrass info on costs. Notice the hugely wide variables related to labor, travel, facilities and more:
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Geez…you throw terms around like a sailor on leave. The settlement discussed is not “charters forever”. It is charters leased to teams through this period, and guaranteed through the next rights period. The expectation is for these to be somewhat evergreen BUT there is no guarantee, nor do teams...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Pockrass showed a document that outlines revenue and costs for a number of anonymous teams. Some had paper losses, others had some profit. Here’s the problem; no details were provided. Financial statements aren’t helpful without detailed accounting. What are the costs? Where are the expenses...
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