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The problem with permanent charters is you continue to hand power away. Eventually you hand enough power away you get pushed out of your own business. The name Carl Keikhaefer ring a bell with anyone? Yeah his drivers won back to back nascar championships in the 50's. He was also the founder...

Its not looking good for nascar right now because for the most part they havent argued their side of the case. Things always look different until you hear both sides.

I don't know anyone that willing gives the competition money. Doesn't make much business sense to me

Or we use those businesses to allow us to spend more on racing. Spin it however you want.

I still haven't seen anything that shows what nascar is giving the teams isn't enough to operate. Just teams are choosing to spend more than that. There are so many things that they spend money on that nascar doesnt require them to do. So you spent 6 million on simulation last year? Huh I...

I don't see anything wrong with saying were not going to give you a ton of money to race in our series if you own and operate another competing series.

Its an easy answer when you dont know the exact answer. If you speculate and say "I believe" or "I think" then they can call into question anything further that doesn't match what you speculated on.

45 million on the previous generation car was crazy.

Wow! That's a back look for coach

I think it is now. Definitely not the first model

I think both sides are holding back, but IMO NASCAR's finances have been more open than the teams. Even FRM admitted that's their loses dont include gains from selling/leasing charters and somehow the truck team was thrown in that as well.

No they seem pretty open about that. Teams just say they're losing money, but won't show where its being spent

I won't let you see it, but take my word for it......

Some interesting things from the tear down. - sounds like Jeff Gordon was upset with Polk at the end of negotiations and called him "delusional" - theres nothing in the agreement that requires nascar to give everyone the same deal. I guess smaller teams were holding out, but then saw what...

There always seems to be restart drama in the closing stages of this race......

Either that or another Matty D case where he just assumed he would be there next season

I think HMS always leaves something lacking in the paint scheme design department. IMO RFK does the best job

To me it seems that the whole plan was to eventually push JGR out as the Toyota top dog

Yeah having to pay almost 6 mil a year for an alliance isn't on nascar

Well in this case I'm sure theres plenty of owners that would be happy to be given 12 mil a year to run a race team as well.