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Ahh there it is. 42 minutes.....longer than I expected. You're slipping man!

Roger has always said there's a plan. Most assumed that Tim Cindric was going to take over the race operations, but he got the axe earlier this year so at this point there doesn't seem to be an heir apparent.

I don't think as many went bust as they saw how much teams were willing to pay for charters and were willing to cash out. You also have to look at how many teams were pushed out because of the charters. Besides the 500 or a one off race when is the last time we sent cars home? With the...

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We'll never know because HMS isn't going to open the books, but I'd be willing to guess hes not buying any of his corvette's with the profit he's making off them. The objective is never to make money off leasing teams, its to build depth and offset the costs through leasing.

We all know which side I'm on here. The business model that the owners themselves created is what is making it not viable. Nascar isn't making them spend this money, its the arms race against one another that's doing it. I swear it was an interview with Rick this week where he said that...

By what measure? Davy Allison Mark Martin Denny Hamlin Tim Richmond Carl Edwards .....

So what do you do when you're in year 5 of a 7 year contract and now you have a legitimate contender? I bet 5 years ago the world of outlaws anticipated having a legitimate contender, yet here we are.

Turner motorsports? No number comes to mind though

Because they have enough foresight to know that over the course of a 7 year deal another series forming and being competition is a possibility.

Well not really. All the talk was about allowing them to bring whatever they want given nascar approved parts. They're not going to be cutting up chassis and modifying them or putting a wing on the roof....

Why would you pay for the yearly operational costs and improvements if anyone is allowed to use it? Nascar uses the track 1 week a year, therefore according to allowing the track to be open for whatever the remainder of the year they should only have to pay 1/50th the yearly costs and it's on...

So we just want a welfare system now? Just give me money without any stipulations! That's as foolish as what some of the teams are demanding. Give us more money! Will you agree to cost containment? No....we're going to spend every dime you give us, all the money we can get from sponsors and...

Besides a few lines in the nose there is nothing resembling a 4 door camry in the current nascar.

Please there's nothing stock appearing about any of these cars. If you pulled the badges off them 98% of the public wouldn't have a clue as to the manufacturer

I'm almost certain it was walmart sponsorship, but I thought that was the 94? Which was already guessed

Break the supposed monopoly they have over the tracks. If you're not allowed to demand exclusivity then why would you pay them near as much?

Who said anything about redirecting it to the teams?

I'm a huge smoke fan and I hope this doesn’t happen. These type of returns are never good and generally tarnish their reputation. How many years has it been since he's been in a stock car? Now you expect him to come out with a new team and manufacturer and run competitive? Look how well...