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These takes are bonkers. It doesn't matter if what NASCAR is doing is ILLEGAL. it does not matter if "they knew the model when they started a team. If they don't like it...." None of that matters if NASCAR is breaking a law. 🤦

I don't think this means that teams want to race outside of NASCAR. And I DO think (totally a guess) that the goal is to leverage themselves for a bigger piece of the pie.

Most frustrating race of the season. Had nearly a half second per lap on the field at times. Wrecked himself.

What jackass. Is he a racecar driver, or a wannabe model? Has no business being in a cup car.

Because it doesn't matter, right. That's sort of the point. No one is claiming perfection

Law and Order is basically a superhero show lol

Did you know today is Saturday? It'd 2024? Since we're discussing things that are so obviously true .. I mean, good lord, some of the takes from certain folks in this thread certainly provides a lot of context...I'll say that.

Only if you're a NASCAR shill. Any fan who looks at these two teams in a negative light after this is an insult to people who think.

Male athletes have also appeared as models, shirtless and all.

So many athletes do photoshoots. Hell, Carl Edwards did a shirtless shoot for ESPN. Athletes due nude body covers for ESPN. just some misogyny

Eliminate eliminations and have it be a 10 race chase again after reset,

I love it. Let's change it. I've long advocated that a playoff format done right is the best system there is. 2004-2013 was the best championship format we have ever had imo, and if we can bring some version of that back. This format is what allowed Larson to miss a race to do something else...

I want him to work on his racecraft. Working on his racecraft does not mean that he would lose what makes him good, or fast, which is a sentiment his other fans seem to have. His racecraft has absolutely improved, and he's become quite elite and managing pace over a run, which is not something...

I mean, Larson's mistake didn't cause him to blow a tire, and it wasn't on him that his pit crew blundered it at Vegas. The math tells us those two incidents are what took him out of it. If we want to put it on him, we can point to him not settling for second, and Cliff NOT telling Kyle that he...

It was the best season of the gen 7 era though. As far as best that didn't result in a title... Hello Carl Edwards 2008

That's more about the format. Larson made that choice under the assumption that he'd get the waiver. Larson made mistakes this year. But in the playoffs, he really didn't. He was plagued by bad luck allllllll post season long outside of the Atlanta crash. This one is still hard to swallow...

There's really not a lot of hate here. I have multiple people blocked and post regularly. Come on man. You come here to brag, and only to brag. Own that **** 😎

I think the 10 races chase was the best we ever will have. It requires Phoenix like elevation and keeping it up for 10 weeks. The champion in that format had to go on a 90s Jeff Gordon like run. There's no doubt that this format is by far the least legitimate in terms of crowning a...

What am I missing? How is this different than what we have now?

To be fair, Larson blowing a tire is what cost him, and the pit road issue. The system screwed him. Also, you only come around here thumping your chest when Logano runs well. Logano is one of the greats, and im sure under the chase format he'd run better But you're a front runner. No one...