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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    So that would mean that the France family still pocketed ~$100 million in the last 3 years from nothing other than payments made by NASCAR to their trust. That also doesn't even cover if the taxes paid had any obvious gain for them like that it covered taxes related to their use of NASCAR...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Well, the teams that aren't the suing ones probably don't want to have a full audit of their books. I don't see where it is that NASCAR actually opened the books on how much of that $400 million gets paid in taxes related to NASCAR and what that even entails.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Is the creative bookkeeping a statement about NASCAR paying the France Family Trust $400 million over the last 3 years? I'm confused.
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    2025 Snowball Derby

    The part that is wildest to me about Majeski's DQ is that over and over again the outside lane proved to be insufficient for drivers to get good bite on the restart. Car after car spins the tires and winds up drifting back. He could have waited until the restart zone, pegged it, and still gapped...
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    That's part of the deal in return for funding, yes.
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    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    More importantly, he didn't need any help from the FIA to be in contention. He was the best driver and car and accumulated more points than anyone else. Sounds like the guy who should be champion to me.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    "The bottom feeders who can't win haven't gone out of business, so what's the big deal? Just ignore the one of those teams suing NASCAR."
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I appreciate you admitting here that you think NASCAR can just get rid of all the current drivers and replace them without any impact to the sport. It's very helpful in understanding your perspective.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Is that why NASCAR is being sued?
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Jim France helping collect tickets in 1959 means he actually built all the things his daddy did: Alright. "Owner of business makes improvements to business for serving customers". Wow. Never thought about it that way. Oh, so by purchasing something from someone else, you get to claim all the...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    When Talladega was being built, Jim France was in college. He personally had nothing to do with that or anything else that Bill Sr. or Jr. did. I was unaware that Roger Penske was a member of the France family. Source?
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    None of the current France family did any of this. They didn't build the tracks: their parents had. Same with building it with their own money (which also LOL at that being true in general either; are we really playing that card?). They hired people to negotiate the TV deals for them.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I would guess that O'Donnell is knowingly or unknowingly choosing to spoil some PRI surprises. Given that GMS Racing is now the owners of the SRX cars and IP, I'm sure they might be more intimately familiar with the new version or outright guiding it. You know, so it doesn't accidentally compete...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Ask NASCAR's lawyers. They could have asked anything they wanted to. This isn't pro wrestling and MJ isn't cutting a promo.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Is the sport called 23XI Racing or NASCAR racing? They all increase NASCAR's position. That's the bottom line. There's no way to make NASCAR bigger without being a benefit to NASCAR. Why would someone else's sponsors (NASCAR or another team's) necessarily lead to more income for their team...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    O'Donnell's point about the money given to Indycar teams also bit him in the ass when he also had to admit that such payment represented 200% (!) of the value of Indycar's media deal. 25% is a pretty far cry from 200%. There's a consistent entity here in all the things I've seen who isn't...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Growing the sport doesn't necessitate increases of revenue to either FRM or 23XI in this dynamic. A new sponsor for another team is irrelevant to them if not an outright negative. Same with a new OEM. But any new sponsor coming into the sport with intention of activation is going to be a...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I mean, there was an attempt at negotiating over a full year and even NASCAR admits that they sent the agreements to people at 5PM with a deadline to return a signed one of one hour.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    This one. The one where I can see all the trial updates on the NASCAR subreddit in the assorted megathreads. I dunno, I guess you should ask NASCAR. They're the ones doing a solid for the fans by paying to manage their own events, right? How lots of people/organizations do: financial reports...
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I was particularly amused with NASCAR arguing that having a cost cap was also an issue for them because they would have to administrate it and thus it "cost money". The point of NASCAR's basic existence is to administrate the events and series. By contrast: Imagine if NASCAR instead came out...
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