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    Another manufacturer coming to NASCAR?

    I won't believe in a fourth manufacturer until we see them unloading in February. We've heard this for years.
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    What did you think of the Martinsville call?

    One thing's for sure. C Bell must be very confident that he'll never need to seek a new ride with any Chevy team in the future.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    This is a great point and is exactly why the next generation of bodies are going to be crossovers like the electric prototype they unveiled earlier this year.
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    Is NASCAR going on a downward spiral? What to do to stop the bleeding?

    It's a combination of everything. The playoffs format/championship feels empty to me. I haven't been able to find a driver to pull for like I did for Jeff Gordon, and now that he's been retired for almost ten years I think I just won't find that magic again. The new car looks great, but it...
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    Is NASCAR going on a downward spiral? What to do to stop the bleeding?

    The fanbase is statistically much smaller than it was during the peak of 2007. I've barely watched this year. Last year I tuned in every weekend. This year whenever I did turn a race on, it ended in a chaotic green-white-checkered. I miss when races would usually play out under green to the...
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    Chevrolet next year?

    Because IMSA prototypes and NASCAR Cup Series are advertising to two different demographics. Notice how Toyota doesn't run the Lexus LC in Xfinity.
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    Chevrolet next year?

    Neither of those things have any chance of happening.
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    What did you think of the Martinsville call?

    I agree with those saying that if NASCAR doesn't issue penalties during the week then Phoenix is going to be a manufacturer/team orders circus from the first lap to the checkered flag. If there's no incentive not to use your manufacturer teammates as blockers, then why shouldn't you make the...
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    Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

    I think the situation with the 3, 1 and 23 was too complex for them to make a decision on right now in the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me if we heard about penalties this week for those teams.
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    Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

    Don't think of it like Byron as much as the team and Chevy. The 24 car was the beneficiary of race manipulation. It's nothing against Byron, it's the team.
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    Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

    My first reaction was to agree with this, but then think about it: If you remove the 24 and 20 only to put the 5 and 11 in, then Hendrick and Gibbs still win even after manipulating the race. Just different car numbers in the title hunt for them instead. What a mess.
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    Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

    DQ the 24 and the 20, plus the 3, 1 and 23. How is this much different from what Michael Waltrip Racing did back in 2013 at Richmond?
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    Silly Season 2025

    The 21 car never goes from Penske to the Wood Bros. The Wood Bros haven't had a functioning shop for years. The 21 is build at Penske alongside the 2/12/22, gets loaded into a hauler from Penske to the track and then back to Penske. The "Wood Bros" drivers, so Harrison right now, are in the same...
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    Silly Season 2025

    21 is literally a Penske car and team. The 21 car is the pride of Ford Motor Company and so that number and the Wood Bros name will never die, but that car is a bonafide Penske ride.
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    Round of 12: Next Four Out

    Cindric Suarez Hamlin Briscoe
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    Silly Season 2025

    Makes sense to me. Make the swap now to start building chemistry over the next two months and get a head start on coming out of the gate strong for Daytona.
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    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    I don't understand what 23XI has to gain now by holding out and making these public statements. If NASCAR has the majority of the teams signed, including all of the majors, then they don't care what 23XI does. They're a two car team. Yes, a successful one so far, with a big-name owner. But it...
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    Silly Season 2025

    Imagine if KB went full circle to end his career at HMS? I know he has one year left on his RCR contract, but stranger things have happened, and who knows what type of out clauses he may have.
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    Silly Season 2025

    @Allenbaba who's driving the 48 next year?
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    First four out

    Harrison Truex Suarez Gibbs
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