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Kenny Wallace has also indicated he's aware of another person on the plane (jacked this from reddit b/c lol at giving elon musk my info):

Whole thing is horrible. Dude put in real work to help people in need.

A local radio station is reporting that their sources say it was Biffle and his entire family. https://www.facebook.com/wameradio/

Here's the entry on Aviation-Safety.net. Obviously a lot of unconfirmed info at the moment. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/563730

https://www.wbtv.com/2025/12/18/plane-crash-iredell-county-airport-leaves-unknown-number-dead/ Plane is owned by Greg Biffle. Nothing is known about the passenger manifest at this time.

There's not really a reason to sit here and have an argument about any of this because it is over. The teams clearly and obviously won out. They got what they wanted and the illusion that the France Family would have total control over the sport in perpetuity has now been washed away. What we're...

Saw that the NHRA announced they were moving the start of the playoffs from Maple Grove in PA which IHRA just bought to the newly minted NHRA facility US 131 Motorsports Park in my home state of Michigan and figured I'd at least post about it and see if people cared much. IHRA has really...

I genuinely agree with you here. I think more so than even just that they had more personally invested in NASCAR than MJ, there's also the factor that they've been here a lot longer presumably because they love auto racing a little more than MJ. Penske is synonymous with American racing. Gibbs...

Drivers may/should benefit from the changes ultimately IMO. Valuations for teams increasing makes it more important to put the best driver in the seat and not merely the one with the biggest check. Teams though are different. The old days are dead.

I somehow imagine this will not exceed 100 pages.

Well, NASCAR and their defenders have been in here for a minute saying that the teams need to cut costs. The top line cost for just about every business is personnel. My guess is they're mostly happy to not be as concerned about laying people off. In fact, they're more likely now to need more staff.

I haven't but yeah, bud, that is indeed what has occurred in this. You think the teams lost when they just got permanent charters? Are we already moving the goalposts?

Buddy, I got news for ya. That's basically what has happened.

The nice part about the NDAs related to this (which I'm sure won't be broken by NASCAR this time LOLOLOL) is that they allow the people who want to believe they some how masterfully pulled off a victory to believe this in spite of the litany of evidence to the contrary. Like, really, they got...

Alright, given what we've all seen in this trial and that we all know that Jim France was the obstacle to the charter negotiations, is there anyone at all who actually believes that the settlement wasn't largely influenced by Jim France finally going up on the stand and s#itting the bed in front...

Considering that it was part of the prior deal when NASCAR arguably had more leverage than now? Yeah, I'm sure that's there along with an increase to the money that the teams will receive from NASCAR. That's what they wanted, not a breakaway series to run SMI ovals or whatever other fantasy...

Only one entity had that power and it wasn't any of them. Sounds like they finally came to their senses.

Trial's over kids. NASCAR settled. Can't imagine why.

NASCAR hasn't won already so clearly that can't be true!

Even if it ultimately revealed that NASCAR was funneling support to Tony George because they knew it would blow up Indycar and benefit the Frances, it still wouldn't matter because the trial is specifically about major league stock car racing. And as you keep pointing out so deftly for me, the...