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  1. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    I don’t know, a lot of people call the championship illegitimate despite drivers clearly being upset when they don’t win it. 🤔
  2. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    I think there’s a delineation between a full time jump and doing a one-off. The money differential between IndyCar and NASCAR made a full time jump a financially wise decision for some. That’s a different can of worms. We have full time NASCAR Cup guys who trip over themselves to run open wheel...
  3. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    This is the best data point we have for how IndyCar views Daytona. Kyle Larson and Kurt Busch attempted the Indy 500 while active winning drivers. I don’t see Will Power or Josef Newgarden asking Roger to put them in a Cup Car or Alex Palou trying to line up a ride. It feels like NASCAR being...
  4. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    The Daytona 500 is still the most prestigious race in stock car racing. NASCAR shooting itself in the foot repeatedly doesn’t change that. I want the old Speedweeks back. The run up to Daytona made it feel like the most important thing on the planet. Give me back Preseason Thunder too.
  5. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    NASCAR leadership went through a period where they saw the sport’s history and traditions as a liability, around the same time as that Bill Weber example I cited above.
  6. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    Whenever I think about drivers and the media on Indy, I think about Bill Weber going on about Rick Mears when Jimmie Johnson won the Brickyard 400 for the first time. NASCAR’s history there pales in comparison to open wheel. A lot of drivers grew up fans of open wheel racing and winning at Indy...
  7. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    No one is denying this. It’s just not a crown jewel for stock cars, no matter how much people in the sport try to force it. The Indy 500, Daytona 500, and Grand Prix of Monaco are the three most prestigious races in the world. The prestige is tied to those races.
  8. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    If IndyCar ran a race at Darlington, would they consider it a crown jewel? I suspect not.
  9. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Then that's not a real negotiation. The teams had leverage, but NASCAR waited them out. If you enter into a negotiation without at least the possibility of walking away, you're not negotiating, you're just wasting your time. I guarantee you that if the teams threatened to go on strike over the...
  10. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Option #5 is a bluff. There’s no way running a spec car series where you absorb all the costs is profitable at all. Any good negotiator knows that you shouldn’t be afraid to call the other side’s bluff.
  11. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    If the teams had that strategy that then “dumb” is an accurate description for those owners. Instead of doing things themselves, they want the courts to step in. Imagine telling Junior Johnson to rely on a court to straighten out NASCAR.
  12. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The teams let themselves be blackmailed. NASCAR has nothing but a TV deals and empty tracks without them.
  13. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The owners have leverage over NASCAR, they provide the product. They could’ve joined 23XI and FRR in holding out and not signing the charter deal. Every other team owner decided that the charter agreement was fine. If they had spoken up and banded together, maybe we would get real change and...
  14. Naitch

    Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

    The Brickyard 400 is only prestigious because it takes place at Indianapolis, not because of anything related to stock car racing. It’s 100% trading on IndyCar history. It’s prestigious because of kids like Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, and Kyle Larson who grew up in open wheel. The Brickyard 400...
  15. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    When you look at a conspiracy theory, you have to ask if the effort is worth the end result. Why would NASCAR need to falsify a positive meth test to get rid of a guy who was a back marker in his own equipment? It makes no sense. Mayfield is taking some of you for a ride and you’re happily...
  16. Naitch

    America's war on cars and how it affects NASCAR

    Actual analysis is a weak point for Slap. I remember a video where he argued that Greenville, SC deserved a track because they had five within a 2.5 hour drive. That’s not the conclusion that his data supported. If anything, it’s an a huge argument against Greenville having a track. He’s a...
  17. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    The quickest way to become a fan favorite among some in the NASCAR "fan" community is to make up conspiracies against the sanctioning body or otherwise attack them in some way. Jeremy Mayfield has used this to his advantage to gain some fans. Nuance is lost on some.
  18. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Tim Richmond was also during the peak of AIDS hysteria. What NASCAR did was obviously wrong, but there's no parallel to Mayfield. What did NASCAR have to gain by ruining the life of a loudmouth backmarker?
  19. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    Mayfield is a two bit grifter whose sob story lost all credibility when he was actually arrested for having meth. When NASCAR suspended him, he was on his way out anyway. He was reduced to driving for himself after burning his bridge with Evernham. His two rides afterwards were with a pre-SHR...
  20. Naitch

    23XI statement on not signing Charter agreement

    That’s the problem. There was nothing they could do. You don’t get change without upending the sport without a critical mass of owners (or less likely sponsors) giving a ****. Maybe NASCAR settles or the judge prescribes a remedy that actually fixes things. As I said from the onset, this is...
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