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NASCAR’s issue is that they see this stuff as a feature, not a glitch. They want the chaos of it all.

Brendan Gaughan and Davey Allison would like a word. Some of these things, like the existence of idiots, is endemic to auto racing. Sometimes things happen outside of the driver’s control. If Hendrick engines hadn’t been unreliable at Talladega in 2002, Jimmie Johnson could have been a rookie...

Some of these people stub their toes on their bed posts and blame the playoffs, I, myself, yelled “****** playoffs” while stuck in rush hour traffic on Friday.

My good friend, NASCAR has been engaging in bull**** since way before the first playoff race.

It’s no more complicated than the Latford system.

I asked ChatGPT for a points system that rewarded winning and has harsh penalties for running in the back. This is what I got: 🏁 “Victory Weight” Points System (VWPS) 1. Race Finish Points Position 1st 60 +20 bonus points over 2nd 2nd 40 3rd 36 4th 33 5th 30 6th 28 7th 26 8th 24 9th 22...

Yeah, she’s not practicing good journalistic behavior. I don’t deny that. But calling her a troll and “influencer” is missing the point. There’s plenty to critique in her statement without attacking her personally.

I think she was using the royal “we,” not the term in the literal sense. I don’t think Danielle thinks that being married to Robby Benton makes her a decision maker. She has a journalism degree from UNC Charlotte and experience in the field. You can attack the idea without attacking the person.

The hive mind is this toxic fan base that lashes out at anyone who disagrees with them.

In this thread, a journalist who dared to disagree with the hive mind has been called a troll and had her credentials questioned. This is getting toxic as hell.

That used to be the practice. NASCAR Thunder 2002 covered the 2001 season.

I would bet you any amount of money that getting rid of the playoffs won’t do crap long term to raise ratings and attendance. You might see a short term spike in interest but the sport has deeper systemic problems than the points system.

I see some parallels - success as a team owner while driving for another team, aggressive driving on the track…

Dennis is this generation’s Mark Martin.

No one. They met the criteria for selection, which were available to everyone else.

Different people have different priorities. Pearson was more interested in trophy hunting than running for a championship. Richard Petty and others valued the championship.

Pearson didn’t run a full season after 1969 and won the championship in three out of the four seasons where he actually competed for one. If Pearson had tried, Petty wouldn’t have 7 championships and if he had run more races, he wouldn’t have 200 wins.

I’ve been a fan of this sport long enough to expect pushback no matter what.

You don’t get to dismiss counter arguments by labeling them as “gotcha,” especially when the core argument is legitimacy. It’s fine if you don’t have an answer but you can’t hand wave it away. Even bad systems are legitimate. The teams all operate under the same rules and with the same set of...

You’re conflating two different arguments. My position is that the system sucks but it is a legitimate means of crowning a champion.