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  1. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    He barely registers in ARCA, which is just rich kids and weekend hobbyists and did not look competitive in his Truck and O’Reilly starts. Cleetus needs to run CARS and more ARCA. That RCR ride could have been given to a driver who actually earned the opportunity. But I guess earning something...
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    My mistake, I missed his top 10s last year. You misunderstood my question. You were concerned about “legitimacy” when it came to the playoffs but not when a YouTuber is showing up in the secondary series? 5 ARCA starts with an average finish of 15.4 is a paper thin resume. He has one Truck...
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    If you were crying about the playoffs making NASCAR “less legitimate” and you now support this Cletus farce, how do you square the inconsistency? A YouTuber with no top 10s in ARCA does not belong anywhere close to a competitive car in the secondary series.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    They dropped “Grand National” in 2002.
  5. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    The evolving identity of the NASCAR O’Reilly Auto Parts Series points to a deeper problem that has been building for years. In the span of about two decades, the series has cycled through multiple title sponsors. Each change comes with a new name, a new logo, a new color scheme, and a new...
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    If it keeps the peace here, I can call it the OAPS. I didn’t mean to cause trouble.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I just call it the Cup Series these days. Again, it goes back to the problem of the secondary series not having a distinct identity. You can refer to the Cup, Trucks, and ARCA without saying a sponsor. You can’t do that with the O’Buschfinitywide Series.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    It's a symptom of a broader problem, the erosion of tradition in name of the almighty dollar. I would be a hypocrite if I just advised candidates and campaigns that want to fight corporate power while at the same time being led around by the corporate dog collar. Notice how I just called it the...
  9. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I’ve dedicated my career to fighting for policies that help poor people. You might want to direct your anger at someone else.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    It’s ridiculous. My favorite example is people talking about “going to Petco” for a baseball game or (formerly) “going to Minute Maid.” But hey, as long as people do this, those sponsorships have value. Did anyone here call Charlotte “Lowe’s” during that weird time when they had naming rights...
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I did no such thing. I called it by a name that doesn’t “respect” the absurdity of the corporate revolving door. Do you work for O’Reilly Auto Parts? You seem unusually worked up about this.
  12. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I’m done with the sponsor roulette. To me, it’s either the Busch Series or Grand National Series. The bowing to corporations that we see in sports has to stop. The wholesale tying of an entire series identity to a corporate sponsor and the ease with which fans go along with it makes me cringe...
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    You’re the one being picky about using the correct corporate sponsor. 🤷‍♂️
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    As an aside, the Grand National Series being the only series without a real identity is unfortunate. You have to be a walking billboard to talk about it. ARCA, Trucks, Cup All distinct identities not tied to a sponsor. The former Busch Grand National Series doesn’t have the same luck.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    Go lick some more corporate boots. Let me guess, it’s also the Willis Tower, Crypto.com Arena, and Daikin Park too right? The evolving name of NASCAR’s secondary series is a bigger joke than Cleetus McFarland’s “racing” career.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    Decker shouldn’t be allowed in the O’Nationwifinity Series either.
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    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I don’t like to be a slave to corporate sponsors. The O’Reilly Auto Parts Series is beyond parody levels bad as a series name.
  18. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    A YouTuber with minimal stock car experience has no business in the Busch Series (or whatever they have this week) in the first place.
  19. Naitch

    O'Reilly RACE thread --- Rockingham

    Some people value popularity over legitimacy.
  20. Naitch

    Who brings more eyes to NASCAR? Cleetus or MJ?

    I don’t know anyone who has ever heard of Cleetus so this is probably social circle dependent.
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