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7 Pack racing is hard for me to rate. I was thoroughly entertained every lap and even watched some of the side by side commercials. I like how most every driver has a chance to run up front. I don’t like the big one, OT and team and manufacturer racing.

I just have a different way of looking at it. There are teams and “players” that rise to the game 7 moments and I don’t see anything wrong with it. My daughters raced BMX on a state and national level and participated in the World Championships one year. It didn’t mater if they beat the other...

Great! I see you understand my point, but don’t agree. Without the playoffs, NASCAR “could” be radically different today and not for the better.

Rico has worked hard over the years to get to this point and he is great interacting with fans of the sport. Happy for Rico and his team.

Penske has all 4 drivers in the top 16. My guess is they will be drafting as a team upfront as usual.

How do you know this is a failure? There is no side by side comparison in this environment. Isn’t it entirely possible that the result would be the same with a season long championship? Kind of like letting me taste a Snickers bar and asking if I like it better than a Milky Way without letting...

No, we can’t. With the exception of any track where you can pit and not lose a lap, I like stage breaks. I am old and Mother Nature calls during a 4 hour race. 😀

I’ll go with a convenient Seven-Eleven. 7.11

Is Denny a great driver? Yes, no doubt about that. Has Denny been a jerk during his career? Yes, no doubt about that. Do I want to see Denny win a championship? No, no doubt about that. That said, if he gets it, it is deserving and proper congratulations will be due.

Did I miss something recently where NASCAR addressed the manipulation that went on during the roval race? While I am one of the few that like the playoff system, the manipulation seems to be getting out of hand and has me rethinking my support.

4, race manipulation by the teams and NASCAR;s failure to address downgraded my rating

I really think top honors go to Mark Martin. Nothing else even close.

I like Ross, but what went down on Sunday is definitely penalty worthy. I think the discussion would be much different today if Ross’s late race theatrics got him into the next round. Which it shouldn’t matter how it ended up.

You might have me confused with another poster. I never made a claim about who does or doesn't "love the current playoff system." I was just asking if there was something that clearly validated support for the full season championship. But I will admit I do prefer some type of playoff vs a...

Agreed, I don't recall ever seeing an "official" poll on this issue, just a bunch of diehard NASCAR fans (which are probably old like me) chatting away. I was hoping @HoneyBadger had something he could share.

Just curious, have you seen something that factually supports this statement or is this your opinion? All I have seen is fans responses to "journalists" or others that have been associated with NASCAR racing for a long time.

7.5 NASCAR inconsistency in the use of the caution flag.

HA HA HA Hambone is the most consistent championship loser in the history of NASCAR.

Big Dave builds ‘em different. He’s has been tinkering with different setups for years. There is some chatter out there that there may be some WOO rule changes.

Precisely. What I noticed when I went to London a few years back was that very few fans were wearing racing apparel. Almost no one. Here’s two poor pictures from London.