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  1. Conover

    Johali's Rate the Cup race --- Texas

    8 - a surprise for Texas
  2. Conover

    NASCAR Pick 'Em 2024 - Texas

    Wow, who is the clairvoyant y’all paid that said to pick Suarez? 🤔 😉 Heck of a pick today! Great pick of Keslowski also.
  3. Conover

    Texas Motor Speedway Pre-Race Thread

    Yes indeed, thanks for the pic. Hope you have a great time and it’s a good race today. Never been to that track, but been to Texas dozens of times.
  4. Conover

    NASCAR Pick 'Em 2024 - Martinsville

    This can be a cruel sport/game, but it’s so well done and so much fun. Gives us the occasional thrill of victory, and too often the agony of defeat. Can you imagine if @Revman was participating? I guess if he can’t pick a Yota every week he wants no part of it 😂.
  5. Conover

    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    If he actually meant that, which we are told Denny can’t NOT spit out his actual stream of consciousness, then he’s a bigger idiot than I suspected. Complete narcissist.
  6. Conover

    Silly Season 2024

    So many teams are lucky if they even turn a small profit. Maybe Haas can pony up $40M without a factory support deal, but you think Tony wants to share in that? Heck no. Without support I can see them selling a couple of these.
  7. Conover

    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    Thanks @virtualbalboa for citing those sources. I believe everything is in okay with these negotiations. Reportedly team owners want 50% of the new tv deal revenue. That’s a huge reshuffle and major cut for track owners. Anyone think NASCAR is willing to do something like that AND leave charters...
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    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    Oh really…tell us all how you KNOW that NASCAR doesn’t want to discontinue the charter ownership system? Prove to us how that is BS.
  9. Conover

    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    What any of us know is almost nothing, since all anyone says is corporate speak, which is understandable. You sense no issues, I sense concern. Kenny Wallace, who is far more connected than any of us, says there are serious issues with the charter negotiations. I’ll take that as legit.
  10. Conover

    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    Doesn’t matter the age…the issues were the same then as they are now. Look, nobody is going to outright publish any details while this is being hammered around. All we know is one charter was sold in the off-season for $40M. Supply and demand at that time. If NASCAR ultimately kills the charter...
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    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    This article via the AP cites the position by NASCAR as understood by the race teams trying to negotiate with them. https://apnews.com/article/nascar-owners-boycott-40d028af65c240c835176476344391a3 Quote from article: “The charters are both renewable — the current ones expire at the end of the...
  12. Conover

    Race Team Alliance Appreciation Thread

    This is not going to be an easy agreement. NASCAR wants to do away with the charter system, and reportedly was willing to phase it out over a period of years (number unknown). Imagine seeing your most valuable asset given an immediate depreciation schedule that ends at ZERO! If that’s based on a...
  13. Conover

    Denny Hamlin Appreciation Thread

    It’s just Hamcrap being Hamturd…again. Not smart to dump on one of the most influential people in NASCAR. He kept wanting SOMETHING to come up and distract from his restart cheating, so he created it. NARCISSIST
  14. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

    Best idea I’ve heard yet. Leave it to Harvick to help NASCAR get this right…if they will listen. His point about them not wanting to affect the outcome of the race on a late restart is exactly why they swallowed the whistle, and EXACTLY WHY THE NARCISSIST HAMBONE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

    Rev, I like you man, but your Denny blinders are really thick. And yes I hate the guy, so I admit my bias, but most everyone agrees he’s a pr*ck and jumped way early…too early for a no call.
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    Silly Season 2024

    Charter prices were never higher than recently, although their value may be slipping due to the stuck negotiations with NASCAR on renewals. Car teams facilities, equipment, even driver contracts have some value, but the charters represent the majority $$$ to these owners. Gotta have some folks...
  17. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

    I long for the day that some driver, after getting “Dennyed” up into the wall, gets enough of this puke and beats the smart azz snot out of his doppy face. Kurt Bush changed his songbook after his attitude adjustment. Narcissistic Hamnob is just sowing the seeds for one. This crap has nothing to...
  18. Conover

    Silly Season 2024

    Wow, blocked by the paywall, but given the summary statement (could sell some or ALL charters), I think it’s the shot across the bow. Remember, the whole charter system thing is up for grabs, with no known negotiation advances shared to date. Even if they come to agreement, it’s thought NASCAR...
  19. Conover

    Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

    Sawyer swallowed the whistle…it’s that simple, and that frustrating. They didn’t want to yank the Hamturd and didn’t have enough time to make the right call (violation) before he crossed the finish line. NASCAR, for some reason, hates the idea of changing the winner after they’ve already done...
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    Cup RACE thread --- Richmond

    And once again Hamsh*+ sends a gigantic F U to NASCAR. Why do they put up with his crap?
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