#15 Staying With DEI

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#15 stays with DEI: DEI VP of Motorsports, Richie Gilmore told Claire B. Lang XM Satellite NASCAR Radio - that the #15 is not going anywhere:
"We're going to run the 1, 8, and 15 again next year and we're working on some sponsorship right now. We have some sponsor stuff in place to run the 15 next year on a partial schedule. There is some possiblities...there's a real small window you know probably by Charlotte everybody has to have their deal signed up. But we have enough stuff right now sponsorship in place to run at least ten races with the 15. But we're just looking at our options of maybe running three (cars) full time. So we haven't ruled that out but it's a short time frame where we close that window."
Gilmore said the benefits of having at least a partial schedule with the #15 are that doing so would give Paul Menard more time at the cup level. They would run him at Daytona and have three partners down there to draft and it would also help them use the full test schedule with all three teams. And as to NAPA taking the 15 number with Michael Waltrip - "That is something Dale (Earnhardt) personally went to Bud Moore and put together and had, has a lot of pride in that number and so does Theresa," Gilmore told Claire B. Lang. "We've had fans both ways saying Michael deserves that number and if they know the history of DEI they know that's not true. That's our number. We have a lot of pride in it as a company and that number will stay with DEI."
CBL: "You're sure you won't give (the #15) number up:?
Gilmore: "I'm positive. That number will stay with DEI. Yes we appreciate the time we've had with NAPA and with Michael but just because Michael was there for five years in that car I don't see where he deserves that number. He was in the number 30. Go get that," Gilmore said. He added that Waltrip talked to DEI about it and wanted to reassure Theresa.. that it was something that NAPA wanted because they had equity in it but that he was fine looking at other numbers.(XM Satellite NASCAR Radio)
NOTE: look for DEI to transfer #15 Owners points to the #1 team that Truex Jr. will drive in 2006.
 
yup...if MW thinks he deserves a number...he should drive the 30..he drove that car longer than any other car in the series....i would have to agree with DEI here, why does MW deserve the 15?
 
Mikey acts like he's an all star driver, reality check your career was lame mikey, now its going to go in obscurity like it should.
 
Yeah - it's not like Waltrip was a champion or anything.

- k y l e
 
If everyone here actually read the whole article you would see that it says that this was something NAPA wanted not Waltrip. "He added that Waltrip talked to DEI about it and wanted to reassure Theresa.. that it was something that NAPA wanted because they had equity in it but that he was fine looking at other numbers." I'm not a big fan of Mikey, but you can't start bad mouthing him about something his sponsor wants. It seems Waltip is fine with driving a diffrent number on his car in 06.
 
Nascar24rainbow said:
If everyone here actually read the whole article you would see that it says that this was something NAPA wanted not Waltrip.
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But if they did that, they couldn't find a legitimate reason to slam him......
 
Really guys, Lay of of Mikey. Sheesh. It is common place for a sponsor to have input on the number a team runs.
 
But if they did that, they couldn't find a legitimate reason to slam him.....
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ive got a legitimate reason...he publically asked Napa to leave DEI and follow him....MW is very popular because of the garage his car comes out of...see Truex Jr for that as well...i think Truex Jr is going to be a great driver..but do you guys actually think if he wasnt driving for DEI that he would have been voted into the All Star race?..Napa will loose a big time fan base that they would have kept if they would have stayed at DEI.

Napa is loosing Jr in their commericals when they leave DEI, thats a pretty big hit on their part.
 
What significance does the 15 have to NAPA. They do not use the number in any of their ads. They use MW. Why should they get a number that has no bearing on their marketing strategies. This Buds For Me is right, NAPA is loosing Dale Jr. that is where there fans came from, not MW.
 
It came from both, Mikey is pretty popular all by himself without the likes of Jr. I wasn't slamming him , i just think he doesn't deserve to carry the 15 on where ever he goes.
 
I never heard that Mikey asked NAPA to follow him, I always heard the opposite. NAPA was going to go wherever Mikey went.
 
Where did this even come from?????
The number belongs to the car owner.
Just like Childress owns the 3 and Yates owns the 28.
Mikey bumped his his head if he even dreamt they would release the number.
It doesn't matter what number he drives. If he's not in a DEI plate car at a plate track then his winning days are over.
He's had more sucess at DEI than anywhere else and his average finish at DEI is 22nd.
If it weren't for Dale Sr., he would still be winless.
Mikey's better in front of the camera than he is behind the wheel.
 
Like him or not, Mikey sells the sponsors' products for them. That's more important than his performance on the track I guess.

As for the numbers, nobody "owns" them; NASCAR assigns them to the team owners every year. A team owner does have first chance for a number he currently holds, but if he does not use the number, NASCAR can issue that number to another team.
I'm not sure how or why Childress still holds onto the #3, but...
 
BobbyFord said:
Where did this even come from?????
The number belongs to the car owner.
Just like Childress owns the 3 and Yates owns the 28.
Mikey bumped his his head if he even dreamt they would release the number.
It doesn't matter what number he drives. If he's not in a DEI plate car at a plate track then his winning days are over.
He's had more sucess at DEI than anywhere else and his average finish at DEI is 22nd.
If it weren't for Dale Sr., he would still be winless.
Mikey's better in front of the camera than he is behind the wheel.
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Amen :)
 
boB said:
Like him or not, Mikey sells the sponsors' products for them. That's more important than his performance on the track I guess.

As for the numbers, nobody "owns" them; NASCAR assigns them to the team owners every year. A team owner does have first chance for a number he currently holds, but if he does not use the number, NASCAR can issue that number to another team.
I'm not sure how or why Childress still holds onto the #3, but...
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I didn't say I didn't like Mikey. I do, I think he's a character. And I agree, he is good for marketing. I just don't think he'll win or be competitive driving for BDR.
As far as the info that I have found on "assigned" numbers, the car owner has the rights to that number as long as he is still participating in the sport, regardless of whether or not he chooses to run that number on a car. If the car owner no longer owns any participating cars, NASCAR may "assign" the number to someone else.
 
As far as the info that I have found on "assigned" numbers, the car owner has the rights to that number as long as he is still participating in the sport, regardless of whether or not he chooses to run that number on a car. If the car owner no longer owns any participating cars, NASCAR may "assign" the number to someone else.[/QUOTE]

According to the NASCAR rulebook car numbers are owned and assigned by NASCAR for use by the car owner.
Numbers are not transferable or assignable by the owner and must correspond with the car owner's license that is on file with NASCAR headquarters, unless otherwise authorized by NASCAR.

As I pointed out in the previous post, NASCAR will usually give the owner who has an assigned number first chance to retain that number, but those numbers are issued every year when the car owner renews his/her license.
 
Bobby,

I honestly don't understand why RCR has been able to retain the #3. I seem to remember something about an owner having to use the number a certain number of times during the season as well, but can't find anything about that in the latest book (2003) I have here at the house.

That requirement may have been rescinded or an exception made in this case?
 
Do you guys think that is right that Yates and Childress be able to do that? Personally I could care less if Mikey takes the 15 with him or if it stays with DEI, Mikey is a good personality, very colorful. He is good for the sport, but as far as his future success or lack there of, I think DEI was also the best thing that ever happened to him. He was always good on the plate tracks, even before DEI, that is why IMO Dale took a chance on him and gave him a ride.
 
boB said:
I'm not sure how or why Childress still holds onto the #3, but...
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For all the freaking merchandise income, bottomline. as long as he just uses the '3' and not Big E's name he can rake it in.

Speaking of which, and totally off-topic; how sick is it to see the Big E merchandise haulers outside the track? Knowing that Theresa is just running that company into the ground - hell, Junior all but said he didn't really want to be there last season, and this season he probably bit his lip having been warned.

Sorry, I know it's off-topic, but I wasn't even a real Earnhardt fan, and I hate that.

- K y l e
 
I honestly don't understand why RCR has been able to retain the #3. I seem to remember something about an owner having to use the number a certain number of times during the season as well, but can't find anything about that in the latest book (2003) I have here at the house.

That requirement may have been rescinded or an exception made in this case?
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NASCAR doesnt retire numbers....however they have pretty much given the 3 to RCR....many people dont want to ever see the 3 on the race track ever again......in order to protect that from happening, nascar has let childers keep the number if he and the earnhardt family decide it should be used again, they can use it.
 
...at some point, sometime, Junior will be behind the wheel of a car numbered '3' . And that will be one day when I put the 48 stuff down and become a 3 fan, if only for a day. =)

- K y l e
 
I know NASCAR does'nt retire #'s but this should be an acception and you can't change my mind in anyway. If the 3 does come back in NASCAR in any series ya better be able to run that # up front or be a contender cause if ya don't you'll be degrading that #
 
I guess this debate will go on forever. IMO numbers mean nothing. Nothing at all. A 2 means nothing. A 24 means nothing. A 15 means nothing. And yes, a 3 means nothing. It's the color and styling of the numbers and looks of the cars that people get to know. Put a yellow 3 using different styling on a green car and nobody would relate it to their hero.

Retire numbers? Get real. Now if someone wants to retire certain drivers, now that's something I could that I could get excited over. :)
 
I know NASCAR does'nt retire #'s but this should be an acception and you can't change my mind in anyway. If the 3 does come back in NASCAR in any series ya better be able to run that # up front or be a contender cause if ya don't you'll be degrading that #
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thats how i feel, it'll be pretty balsy for someone to use that number...all people will talk about is the 3 car out on the track, and if it aint runnin good that team will get a ton of flack.
 
Kyle48 said:
...at some point, sometime, Junior will be behind the wheel of a car numbered '3' . And that will be one day when I put the 48 stuff down and become a 3 fan, if only for a day. =)

- K y l e
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Yes, it's already in the works for Jr. to be in a #3 car, if only for a few races. Childress and Jr. have already discussed it.
For names sake Jr. should be the only one to drive the 3, if anyone. If not, in my opinion, the number should be permanently retired.
However, even Jr. don't got the cha-cha to fill his daddy's shoes.
 
Way to much is made about numbers. Cup and Busch cars look almost identical, right?

When you see Clint Bowyer drive the #2 in the Busch series, do you think Rusty Wallace?
When you see the #6 with whoever is driving it that day, do you immediately think Mark Martin?
Of course not. The cars are not painted the same. The numbers are not the same.
And if they had a #3, it would not automatically mean Earnhardt.

I say that numbers by themselves mean nothing. Unless you are the #1. Then you are king of the hill. :)
 
bumpzter said:
Way to much is made about numbers. Cup and Busch cars look almost identical, right?

When you see Clint Bowyer drive the #2 in the Busch series, do you think Rusty Wallace?
When you see the #6 with whoever is driving it that day, do you immediately think Mark Martin?
Of course not. The cars are not painted the same. The numbers are not the same.
And if they had a #3, it would not automatically mean Earnhardt.

I say that numbers by themselves mean nothing. Unless you are the #1. Then you are king of the hill. :)
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When yer drivin' down the highway and you see a car with nothing but a 3 on the back window, you know exactly what it means.
 
BobbyFord said:
When yer drivin' down the highway and you see a car with nothing but a 3 on the back window, you know exactly what it means.
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Like bumpzter said:I guess this debate will go on forever. IMO numbers mean nothing. Nothing at all. A 2 means nothing. A 24 means nothing. A 15 means nothing. And yes, a 3 means nothing. It's the color and styling of the numbers and looks of the cars that people get to know. Put a yellow 3 using different styling on a green car and nobody would relate it to their hero.
 
That #3 will forever be associated with the MAN who died while driving it and shoud be retired in his memory. JMO
 
Only Jr should be able to run that #, if not get rid of it forever...Just my opinion.
 
Michael waltrip should get the 00 as his number. That will represent the number of wins he'll get in the future. :)
 
This Buds For Me said:
Napa is loosing Jr in their commericals when they leave DEI, thats a pretty big hit on their part.
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Meh, that's not that bad of a hit. NAPA will still have Mike Skinner, Johnny Benson, and hell...even Bill Lester for their commercials. :D
 
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