2025 IndyCar News / Misc

kkfan91 said:
Indy has just been eye balling cars this whole time?
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They have a bunch of different tools and templates they use to manually measure dimensions and perform pass/fail tests. Certainly being able to scan the cars will streamline processes and analyze/store/output at a greater level of detail.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Sounds like it.
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Just seems odd for a series that at least seems to present itself as higher technologically compared to NASCAR.

I'd assume its mostly cause $$$ hasn't always been there in open wheel over the last 30 years.
 
kkfan91 said:
Just seems odd for a series that at least seems to present itself as higher technologically compared to NASCAR.
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I don’t know that anyone has actually done this Champ Car finally went under. There’s been a spec chassis for two decades, with a spec or tightly-controlled engine formula and spec aero kit for the vast majority of that time as well. Pretty much the only differentiating factors from NASCAR now are open damper development and hybrids.

If anything, I think the series and its fans try to contrast it with F1 with regard to technology. Which is a questionable way to market yourself.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I don’t know that anyone has actually done this Champ Car finally went under. There’s been a spec chassis for two decades, with a spec or tightly-controlled engine formula and spec aero kit for the vast majority of that time as well. Pretty much the only differentiating factors from NASCAR now are open damper development and hybrids.

If anything, I think the series and its fans try to contrast it with F1 with regard to technology. Which is a questionable way to market yourself.
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Must be the steering wheel. Do all of those buttons work?
 
StandOnIt said:
Must be the steering wheel. Do all of those buttons work?
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kkfan91 said:
Fewer cars is never the solution
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rd45usa said:
I agree, but I think Zak is looking at less teams the more a franchise is worth.
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Likewise. Especially after all the time and effort the series has collectively spent in attracting new entrants and building a strong, stable grid.

I think their expectation, though, is that there will be some natural attrition whenever the new chassis (lol) debuts, and the ‘problem’ will kinda fix itself.
 
rd45usa said:
I think to take a wait see what Honda does.
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IndyCar shifts new car to 2028 | RACER

The IndyCar Series is formally shifting its new chassis and engine introduction from 2027 to 2028.
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I honestly don’t understand how Mark Miles is still employed. When Penske appointed him to lead the steering committee it felt like that was the last straw for any hope of getting this thing out in a timely manner.
 
We've had so much good racing I don't see the hurry to replace a car that's working. They could clean up the turbulence since we have to live with it for two more years, but any new car is probably just going to be an evolution anyway.
 
I'd like to see what Chip said, regulations for teams to decide hybrid or no hybrid for the teams to choose themselves, best of both worlds.
 
Doc Austin said:
We've had so much good racing I don't see the hurry to replace a car that's working. They could clean up the turbulence since we have to live with it for two more years, but any new car is probably just going to be an evolution anyway.
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The base chassis has been around so long and had so much stuff Frankenstein’d on to it that it’s pretty much at its breaking point. It needs a wholesale redesign to more seamlessly integrate stuff it was never designed for, like the aeroscreen and the hybrid componentry, and just needs to shed a lot of weight.

It would seem to me to be a tail wagging the dog scenario where they have to design the car around the powerplant it’ll use, but they say they already have the car itself designed and in the wind tunnel. Seems kinda confusing that they wouldn’t have the engine specs locked down yet.

Maybe the most interesting part of the story was a reference to Nissan being interested in joining. Toyota and Porsche have kicked the tires around in an IndyCar program for several years now but no one has credibly mentioned Nissan until now.
 
rd45usa said:
I'd like to see what Chip said, regulations for teams to decide hybrid or no hybrid for the teams to choose themselves, best of both worlds.
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The most frustrating thing for the series itself and a lot of the other stakeholders in the paddock has to be that Honda were by far the biggest proponents for introducing a hybrid and now they’re holding the series hostage. Imagine they made all the teams spend all the extra money to retrofit the chassis and then on the hybrid components themselves, just to dip a couple of years later…
 
FLRacingFan said:
Maybe the most interesting part of the story was a reference to Nissan being interested in joining. Toyota and Porsche have kicked the tires around in an IndyCar program for several years now but no one has credibly mentioned Nissan until now.
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And that's how over 15 years later the Delta Wing finally debuted in Indycar...
 
Marshall Pruett podcast .
TOPICS: Mexico race, Canadian GP vs Indy 500 clash, free agents, silly season, and more.
 
New car is officially announced for 2028. Encouraging concepts include:

- Targeted 85-100 pound weight reduction
- Shift from 2.2L to 2.4L TTV6 engine for more torque and horsepower
- Xtrac gearbox that’s 25 pounds lighter than the current gearbox and will share components with the future Indy NXT gearbox as well
- Hybrid will continue to evolve with longer deployment and more power
- More ergonomic ****pit design with improved seating position and integrated aeroscreen + new roll hoop

 

Andretti Global’s Kyle Kirkwood to run Honda livery at Mid-Ohio​

Andretti Global's Kyle Kirkwood will be debuting a brand-new Honda livery this weekend at the Honda Indy 200 at Mid-Ohio Presented by the All-New 2026 Passport.

The collaboration comes at a home race for Honda, as the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course is just over 60 miles from the Honda Marysville and East Liberty Auto Plants as well as Honda Research & Development, and celebrates all of Honda's products—from the streets to the sky. More than 400,000 Honda and Acura automobiles are made in Ohio each year, as well as research and design on components for Honda products from lawnmowers to the HondaJet.

 
They’re throwing the kitchen sink at the package this weekend to get a racey product out there after last year’s double bore fest on the partially repaved surface - kinda seems like they’re angling for something in the ‘pack racing’ realm. Ultimately, it better work, because if not it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Iowa come off the calendar altogether next year. Advance ticket sales have not been good.

 
FLRacingFan said:
They’re throwing the kitchen sink at the package this weekend to get a racey product out there after last year’s double bore fest on the partially repaved surface - kinda seems like they’re angling for something in the ‘pack racing’ realm. Ultimately, it better work, because if not it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Iowa come off the calendar altogether next year. Advance ticket sales have not been good.

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That sounds like they're pretty desperate. You gotta make them pretty damn slow to get pack racing on a 7/8 mile track.

According to David Land the Iowa weekend is a candidate to be dropped in favor of Mexico. There doesn’t seem to be any other oval in sight to be added.
 
donthaveanickname said:
That sounds like they're pretty desperate. You gotta make them pretty damn slow to get pack racing on a 7/8 mile track.

According to David Land the Iowa weekend is a candidate to be dropped in favor of Mexico. There doesn’t seem to be any other oval in sight to be added.
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There’s some other interesting stuff that’s been floated around as well, like Toronto falling off for Watkins Glen, Motegi has been thrown around a bit, Denver seems like a sure thing for 2027. I had t heard anything about ovals until this was apparently mentioned on IndyCar Radio during practice this morning:

 
Tony_K said:
Nooooo!!
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Attendance has seemed to peter out after the first couple of years back. The Formula E race that was there a year or two ago seemed to get a bigger crowd than the recent IndyCar weekends in Portland. I think it gets extended for one more shot in 2026 but that may be it.

Denver is home to a couple of key sponsors like AMR and Arrow, so there’s that too.
 
FLRacingFan said:
There’s some other interesting stuff that’s been floated around as well, like Toronto falling off for Watkins Glen, Motegi has been thrown around a bit, Denver seems like a sure thing for 2027. I had t heard anything about ovals until this was apparently mentioned on IndyCar Radio during practice this morning:

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Idk if Motegi is an attempt to keep Honda (or a demand by Honda) but the road course there just doesn't have an intriguing layout. How about Suzuka?
They should've gone to Mexico City before Cup, now I'd rather see them go to one of the Mexico Series oval tracks.

I don't wanna lose Toronto. Can't they just add the Glen, it's not like 18 races is that much?

Homestead and Richmond sounds great but I'm not gonna get my hopes up yet.

I guess the PNW isn't such an important market after all? NASCAR seemed hell bent on adding Portland to the Cup schedule but that talk seems to have calmed down quite significantly.
 
donthaveanickname said:
Idk if Motegi is an attempt to keep Honda (or a demand by Honda) but the road course there just doesn't have an intriguing layout. How about Suzuka?
They should've gone to Mexico City before Cup, now I'd rather see them go to one of the Mexico Series oval tracks.

I don't wanna lose Toronto. Can't they just add the Glen, it's not like 18 races is that much?

Homestead and Richmond sounds great but I'm not gonna get my hopes up yet.

I guess the PNW isn't such an important market after all? NASCAR seemed hell bent on adding Portland to the Cup schedule but that talk seems to have calmed down quite significantly.
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Motegi could be a matter of Honda wanting a major international event at their other race track. Suzuka obviously has F1 and then the Suzuka 1000km is returning this year as well.

Toronto is rumored to possibly shift to a Formula E event. Nothing substantiated about it yet though. All that’s known for sure is their contract with IndyCar ends this year. Exhibition Place development has also really crowded the pit and paddock space available for IndyCar and an FE event might be able to take up less space.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Motegi could be a matter of Honda wanting a major international event at their other race track. Suzuka obviously has F1 and then the Suzuka 1000km is returning this year as well.

Toronto is rumored to possibly shift to a Formula E event. Nothing substantiated about it yet though. All that’s known for sure is their contract with IndyCar ends this year. Exhibition Place development has also really crowded the pit and paddock space available for IndyCar and an FE event might be able to take up less space.
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Motegi has a major international event but attendance for that one is extremely poor.
I'd be surprised if they go to Japan as early as 2026 .
 
donthaveanickname said:
Motegi has a major international event but attendance for that one is extremely poor.
I'd be surprised if they go to Japan as early as 2026 .
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I would say probably 2028 when the new car and engine formula debut. It’ll take a lot of lead time to organize the logistics as well. Pato mentioned it by name recently so it does seem like a pretty serious consideration.

Super Formula races pretty well there so I wouldn’t mind seeing it.
 
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