56' Nascar trailers in California

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Didn't the Nascar teams have a problem with California banning their 56' trailers, and does anyone know how long ago that was? Does anyone know if they went back to the 53' trailers or what they did to fix the problem? California sent Nhra a letter when we were all in LasVegas Racing, and they had a list of all the teams that had 56' trailers and they new we were coming to the World Finals in California next, and that if they caught any of the trailers in Ca that they would have to have them hauled out of the state on a lowboy trailer. I didn't have to worry because our trailer is a 53' Featherlite. But they did catch one Top Fuel team, and they made the team hire a lowboy to haul the trailer back out of the state. The Chp came to the Pomona race track and wrote down all the DOT numbers from 61 rigs that had 56' trailers. Caltrans finally agreed to let the trailers get out of the state, but they have to be shortend before they return for the Winternationals in 2012. I just figured some of you might know how the Nascar teams handled this problem.
 
Didn't the Nascar teams have a problem with California banning their 56' trailers, and does anyone know how long ago that was? Does anyone know if they went back to the 53' trailers or what they did to fix the problem? California sent Nhra a letter when we were all in LasVegas Racing, and they had a list of all the teams that had 56' trailers and they new we were coming to the World Finals in California next, and that if they caught any of the trailers in Ca that they would have to have them hauled out of the state on a lowboy trailer. I didn't have to worry because our trailer is a 53' Featherlite. But they did catch one Top Fuel team, and they made the team hire a lowboy to haul the trailer back out of the state. The Chp came to the Pomona race track and wrote down all the DOT numbers from 61 rigs that had 56' trailers. Caltrans finally agreed to let the trailers get out of the state, but they have to be shortend before they return for the Winternationals in 2012. I just figured some of you might know how the Nascar teams handled this problem.
Poor Torrence. Must feel like Robby Gordon...get made an example of, but then everybody else is scott-free.
 
Poor Torrence.
That was a brand new trailer and that would have been the third race with it. Trailer shops will be busy this winter chopping 3' off the ones that can be shortened. What happend to Robby Gordon? The reason I started this thread is because I figured some of you guys would know what happened with the Nascar teams, or if there is an old thread on this topic.
 
That was a brand new trailer and that would have been the third race with it. Trailer shops will be busy this winter chopping 3' off the ones that can be shortened. What happend to Robby Gordon? The reason I started this thread is because I figured some of you guys would know what happened with the Nascar teams, or if there is an old thread on this topic.
I just say robby b/c he's NASCAR's red headed step child
 
The reason I started this thread is because I figured some of you guys would know what happened with the Nascar teams, or if there is an old thread on this topic.

guido might know if he see's this thread. i believe he drives a hospitality trailer to some/most? cup races. don't recall any old thread on trailer length.
 
I'm afraid I don't have any answers.

I drive an F-350 and pull a two-car 40 ft. trailer.

A bit under the maximum. :D
 
I'm afraid I don't have any answers.

I drive an F-350 and pull a two-car 40 ft. trailer.

A bit under the maximum. :D
I kinda miss the old days when we used a pickup truck and a gooseneck trailer. Sure was a lot easier finding parking at the hotels.:)
 
I kinda miss the old days when we used a pickup truck and a gooseneck trailer. Sure was a lot easier finding parking at the hotels.:)
You should see the people at the local bracket races here in texas. Some of these guys..BRACKET RACERS...have the next thing to 18 wheelers..and one team does use an 18 wheeler. *sigh*
 
I'm a little confused on this? I thought Cali had a special permit availible just For the big race rigs?
The other thing I'm confused about is their "Haul Out" policy, would'nt the lowboy have to be longer than 53' to haul out the "Illegal" trailers? Or do they give them a special overhang permit?
 
I'm a little confused on this? I thought Cali had a special permit availible just For the big race rigs?
The other thing I'm confused about is their "Haul Out" policy, would'nt the lowboy have to be longer than 53' to haul out the "Illegal" trailers? Or do they give them a special overhang permit?
California will not issue a permit if the load can be hauled on two trailers. But if the load is long enough that it can only be hauled on one trailer then you can purchase a permit. I would copy and paste the letter that Nhra sent to all the teams but I don't know if that is allowed here, and I don't want to post anything that is not allowed.
 
I would copy and paste the letter that Nhra sent to all the teams but I don't know if that is allowed here, and I don't want to post anything that is not allowed.

easier to get forgiven than permission. ;) unless the letter is copyrighted i don't see where it would be a problem.
 
You should see the people at the local bracket races here in texas. Some of these guys..BRACKET RACERS...have the next thing to 18 wheelers..and one team does use an 18 wheeler. *sigh*

Weve got local dirt track racers who just race at 1-2 tracks and do not travel and they use 18 wheller stacker traillers. Pretty much a nascar trailler.
 
Here is the e-mail that was sent to the teams.

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Light <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Oct 27 19:23:08 2011
Subject: California 56' trailer law

As most of you are aware, California Highway Patrol (CHP) has indicated they will actively be enforcing the maximum 53’ trailer law. The problem first surfaced when Bob Tasca’s transporter was cited in route from Sonoma to Seattle. At that time it was believed that an over-length permit could be obtained through Caltrans (California Department of Transportation). On September 28, Bob informed us of the following – “Our permit was rejected in writing and I was told that under no circumstance will they allow a 56 foot trailer into CA. They also made it clear to me that there is no permit available. The head of the DOT was very nice to me but made it clear that the Motorsports law would have to be amended. Since the NASCAR community uses 53 foot trailers they are unaffected. He told me that a trailer caught will be impounded at the scales and have to be loaded on a low boy trailer and truck out of the state.”

Since that time, V Gaines has been working with the National Truckers Association in a lobbying effort to seek a Federal exemption for motorsports. V has made some positive headway, however obtaining a Federal exemption can be a lengthy process, one that certainly will NOT be obtained prior to Pomona (or for that matter, probably not the 2012 Winternationals). Also, there are NO guarantees that obtaining an exemption is even possible.

NHRA has been in communication with the head of the Commercial Division for the CHP and Caltrans, plus has recruited assistance from Joe Sheehy Legislative Director for Congresswoman Grace Napoliano and the Southern California Auto Club (AAA). Congresswoman Napolitano is extremely supportive and has discussed with the Commissioner and Assistant Commissioner of the CHP. The Auto Club’s Tom McKernan, their transportation staff and their Sacramento lobbyist have been very helpful in communication with California legislators, the CHP and Caltrans. We have also solicited assistance from Infineon Raceway and Auto Club Speedway at Fontana in contacting the CHP, Caltrans and State Legislators expressing the importance of the issue as well as how these races benefit the local and state economy. Additionally, the Fairplex at Pomona has also been actively pursuing a resolution to this matter.

In a conference call Tuesday with the head of the CHP Commercial Division, three of his officers and myself, I was alarmed to learn how knowledgeable they are about our activities:

1. They are aware that the NHRA teams are currently in Las Vegas this weekend.

2. They are aware these teams will be travelling to Pomona for the event two weeks later.

3. They identified certain teams that use legal 53’ trailers, and also named others that have 56’ trailers.

4. They are aware that most teams are based in Indianapolis.

5. On Monday, they were on a conference call with the Indiana State Police regarding enforcement of over-length trailers in Indiana. ,



Our efforts to this point have been an attempt to arrive at a short term solution for the Auto Club NHRA Finals. Unfortunately, despite everyone’s efforts, a resolution to the matter has not yet been reached.

• Caltrans is the agency that creates and issues permits. They have made it very clear that permits do NOT exist for this purpose and, at this point, are unwilling to consider creating a permit.

• The CHP’s position is that it is their responsibility to “enforce the law” and the teams responsibility to “comply with the law”. Their opinion is that the law was revised in the late 90’s to accommodate motorsport transporters and there is little willingness on their part to further amend a long standing law (the same law that exists in most other states). They also expressed they are “not supportive of exempting longer trailers”. We do not have a sense as to how aggressively they plan on enforcing this law.

While there is no immediate resolution, the CHP suggested transporting race cars and support equipment in rented legal length trailers - then contract with a transport service to haul the 56’ trailer on a lowboy (permits do exist for this purpose). Another suggestion was to investigate the possibility of shipping the trailers and contents by rail from Las Vegas to Pomona area.

Anything your team could do to use your influence and/or connections to assist in this matter could be beneficial.

Thanks,

Graham
 
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