9 Cup drivers to double up @ Kentucky

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With the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series racing at Kentucky Speedway for the first time on Saturday night, there will be no shortage of drivers pulling double duty to get some extra seat time.

While many, if not most, of the Cup regulars have tested at the 1.5-mile oval at one point or another, not all of them have raced there. As a result, many of them are racing in the NNS race at Kentucky this weekend, hoping to gain an advantage for the main event on Saturday night.

Among the Cup regulars, nine of them are entered in the NNS race: Kasey Kahne (JR Motorsports), Kyle Busch and Joey Logano (Joe Gibbs Racing), Brad Keselowski (Penske Racing), Mark Martin (Turner Motorsports), Kevin Harvick (Kevin Harvick Inc.), Carl Edwards (Roush Fenway Racing), David Reutimann (Rusty Wallace Racing) and Joe Nemechek (NEMCO Motorsports).

Busch is the only driver slated to run all three races, while both Elliott Sadler and Jennifer Jo Cobb will run the NNS and NCWTS races. It will make for a busy weekend for drivers and crews alike.
 
I'm going to laugh if it rains saturday night and washes the rubber off...would level the playing field, but doubt it will happen
 
I like it.
I'm curious to see if Kyle can get a triple crown. But I won't be able to watch it because we are racing in Joliet Il this weekend. This is the last of a three week stretch.:partytime
 
If you can't run with the big dogs then stay on the porch.

Here's a couple of articles that I found from a little earlier this year:

From Bleacher Report> It is indeed a hot topic with some when the CUP drivers infiltrate the lower NASCAR series intended to be developmental for the drivers who may one day be stars at the top level in the sport.
The whiners are quick to complain about the domination of CUP drivers in the second and third tier of NASCAR's top series.
Truth be told, attendance will continue slipping from the already light turnout we have at most of the tracks for the Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series.
Television ratings are hardly impressive for the lower series even with Cup drivers dominating. Some fans will make an extra effort to attend a race or watch on television with the special appearances of Dale Earnhardt Jr. or Danica Patrick.
There is a lot of great talent in first-class equipment that make up the regulars of the Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series.
Until those drivers achieve wins against the CUP drivers, show some good rivalries and unique personalities, the series will flounder without the stars of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.
There has to be some draw for the fans. Currently there just isn't much more reason to watch a Nationwide race than there is to watch a K&N Pro Series race without some star power.
The fans that travel to watch the up and coming drivers, who may one day be superstars, are hardly fighting for tickets, especially with the economic times that currently exist.
Even the great venue of Bristol Motor Speedway had a fan turnout for the last Nationwide series race that verged on embarrassing.
NASCAR is trying to be as fair as possible with drivers in the lower series. They forced the drivers to choose a series thereby eliminating CUP drivers from contending for the championship against the future stars.
NASCAR isn't about to eliminate CUP drivers from the lower series. Pure business sense precludes them from such a move.
Those who feel allowing CUP drivers in the Nationwide and Truck series serves injustice to the regular drivers in those series just need to get over it, as do the drivers who complain about them.
Until the young stars like Ricky Stenhouse Jr., Justin Allgaier, Reed Sorenson, Steven Wallace and so many others step up and beat the CUP drivers, all is fair.
Stenhouse Jr. challenged Carl Edwards at Iowa Speedway and snatched the win with both driving Roush Fenway Racing equipment.
Even former CUP drivers like Elliott Sadler and Jason Leffler can't seem to beat Kyle Busch or Carl Edwards.
CUP drivers also set an example during Nationwide races that provide guidance like showing them the line to drive on the track and making moves to gain advantage.
Prior to the Nationwide race at Iowa Speedway, Austin Dillon told an ABC television pit reporter, "It's good to race against the CUP drivers, so we can go out and prove ourselves."
Sadler was the pre-season pick to grab the NASCAR Nationwide championship with his KHI equipment.
He is currently in the points lead and in theory is a CUP driver that no longer had a good ride in that series.
The Nationwide series is designed to be developmental for young drivers, but many veteran drivers remain in the series or drop back from CUP to run there.
The NASCAR media transcript of the press conference Brian France had in Charlotte prior to the Sprint All-Star race addressed CUP drivers in the Nationwide series.
France stated, "I think you're going to see us take a slow, steady look at making sure that we're getting the most out of the Nationwide series which needs to be analogous to college football and being able to build some stars that come from Saturday to Sunday for us."
France added, "We'll be looking at ways to enhance the young drivers and their talents, and new owners, for that matter, in the Nationwide and other national series that don't just get this, you know, [proliferation] of CUP drivers to the point where it just homogenizes Saturday and Sunday."
It is all about competition and a good show for the fans. The best of the regular drivers have the same level of equipment as the CUP drivers who compete against them, even though their budgets are tighter.
If drivers are to be future stars in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, they best amp up their on-track showing.
It's time to stop whining about CUP drivers dominating in the lower series.
If they don't continue to race there, those series will face a slow death with sponsors dropping out and fans turning away unless Brian France has some swell tricks up his sleeve.

From MRD.com> Elliott Sadler met with the media at Iowa Speedway on Saturday as the series points leader. It was his first time racing there and his comments were interesting. But what struck me as I sat on the aisle, three rows back and had a straight on view of him, were his comments about the series itself and the topic of the Sprint Cup drivers competing in the series as well. He spoke sternly and with passion. We all took note. So I thought I should share his point of view with you. After the race on Sunday, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and Jack Roush both also commented on the subject.
Q: All of the Nationwide races so far this year have been won by cup drivers. But, coming here you having the point lead, and you having top fives over half the races, you gotta feel like you are one of the drivers knocking on the door for NW to looking for that win.
Sadler: “I am so glad you asked me that – because we get it every week – ‘All the cup guys are winning all the Nationwide races’. I’m going to start giving you some stats.
Carl Edwards races against us every week, he’s leading the Sprint Cup Series points.
Kyle Busch races against us every week. He has the most wins in Sprint Cup Series this year.
Kevin Harvick races here pretty much every week. He’s tied for the most wins in Sprint Cups Series this year.
Denny Hamlin runs with us a lot, he had the most wins in Sprint Cups Series racing last year.
Clint Bowyer races against us, he’s made the Chase the last four years in a row.
In other words, the guys that are coming racing against us are not ordinary guys. They’re not middle of the pack guys that you see on Sundays. They are the real deal.
I think it is awesome they run down here. I think it is good for our sport. I think it’s good for the tracks. I think it’s good for up and coming young drivers that want to match their talent and see where they stack up at.
No, we have not won a race yet. Do we want to? Yes. But we race under a different set of rules too. Those guys can take a lot more chances than we can on the race track making it two wide, three wide. They can take a lot more chances, they do a lot of short pitting, every week the 22 short pits. They can do that. They’re not racing for points.
So there are two different races going on at the same time but the level of competition we have right now in the Nationwide series is pretty good. Yeah, I know those guys are coming down but they’re some of the best drivers in the world. Not only on Saturday but they’re kicking everyone’s butt on Sunday too.
We gotta do a better job, we gotta start leading more laps, and we gotta start trying to go for winning races. But we are doing what we need to do to try to win this Nationwide Series Championship. That’s what we want to do. We’re being consistent every week. But our time will come.”
He was thankful for the question. Sadler said, “I hear it every week but people forget who we’re actually racing against. It’s not like they’re running 25th every week on Sunday.”
After winning his first NASCAR Nationwide race on Sunday, here is what Ricky Stenhouse Jr. had to say about the Sprint Cup drivers competing in the Nationwide series.
Q: Ricky, talk a little bit about what it means for a Nationwide driver to win after so long.
Stenhouse Jr.: “Yeah, I think Justin Allgaier was the last one to win last year. But for us to get it I think it feels good for the Nationwide guys. You know I don’t think we’re the only Nationwide regular that’s going to win a race this year.
Everybody is running strong. They’re finishing top five. Whether the cup guys are there or not, all of us regular Nationwide guys are competing with them.
To be that first one it feels good and I feel like since we got the first one out of the way, hopefully the next few will be a little bit easier. Man this series is tough. Nationwide does a good job with it and I’m just glad to be able to race in it.”

Jack Roush’s Comments:
Q: What’s your opinion – do you think the Cup drivers should be limited in the number of races they run in the Nationwide series?
Roush: “The short answer to that is no. But I don’t really mean absolutely no. There is an entertainment component of all the racing we do with NASCAR, and the folks that do the market surveys and the ratings analysis that come from the TV audiences will tell you what we ought to have.
The Nationwide series is not a series singularly for developing new talent. If all you have is 43 drivers that are not known, you wouldn’t have the crowds that you want to have to be able to build the stadiums and align the sponsorships. You wouldn’t be able to generate enough money for it. It takes a balance and what that balance is is something that I don’t have a strong feeling about either way.”
Stenhouse Jr. added: “I personally think that I like the cup guys coming down and racing with us. I thnk that is the only way you are going to get prepared to go to that next level if you are racing with them each and every week. If you can’t race with them on Saturday, I don’t feel like there is any reason to go race with them on Sunday.
I feel like it gives us a better opportunity to showcase what we have to run against them. Not just for myself, but I mean there’s cup teams that come pit these cars and we’ve got a developmental pit crew and it’s the same way with them. When they can compete with the cup guys coming down to pit some of these cars, they feel like they’re ready to move up. So I think that having them come down is a good thing.
 
Why? I rather see the Nationwide drivers racing in the Nationwide race. Not Cup drivers coming in taking seat time from the drivers of tomorrow
The cup drivers will teach them and make them a better driver, and when they beat a cup driver they can really be proud of what they have accomplished. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Maybe you have to work around racing your whole life to understand this, but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.:)
 
Ahhhh, the song, err thread that never ends..... Cup drivers in the Nationwide lineup. :rolleyes: Those horrible, horrible Cup drivers. I agree totally Nitro Dude. :beerbang:
 
The cup drivers will teach them and make them a better driver, and when they beat a cup driver they can really be proud of what they have accomplished. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Maybe you have to work around racing your whole life to understand this, but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.:)

Or maybe the Cup drivers should stop looking for an easy paycheck and an easy win and stick with the major leagues instead of racing in the minor leagues?
 
Truth be told, attendance will continue slipping from the already light turnout we have at most of the tracks for the Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series.

Television ratings are hardly impressive for the lower series even with Cup drivers dominating. Some fans will make an extra effort to attend a race or watch on television with the special appearances of Dale Earnhardt Jr. or
Danica Patrick.

Until those drivers achieve wins against the CUP drivers, show some good rivalries and unique personalities, the series will flounder without the stars of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.

There has to be some draw for the fans. Currently there just isn't much more reason to watch a Nationwide race than there is to watch a K&N Pro Series race without some star power.

I don't know who wrote this article, but it has the sound of someone who has followed NASCAR since way back in the 2000s. The writer, and most proponents of Cup drivers in Nationwide, make the mistake of believing the Nationwide Series is a waste of space if it isn't as big as the Cup Series. It was never meant to be anywhere near the level the Cup Series is. It was a stepping stone, and a place for a local track racer to put the family business on the car, or maybe a regional auto parts or grocery chain, and get started in NASCAR. It was a place where new teams could actually put cars on the track with a real chance to make it. Forget about that today. If you're a driver hoping to make it big in NASCAR, you better hope you have an owner and sponsors with their eyes on you before you're even out of a go cart. Team owners, better funnel in some money from that multi-million dollar company of yours (you have one, right?). No wonder the is such a large discrepancy between the haves and have-nots. The influx of Cup raiders in the last decade has actually done more damage to the sport than any Cup raider advocate would care to notice.

What's to say scaling back a bit wouldn't be a good thing for the Nationwide Series? The only people I actually believe would jump ship without Cup raiders are the driver fans who couldn't care less what they're watching as long as there guy is in the limelight. Fine by me, because for the rest of us, a series void of big name prima donna drivers and big money teams would, in all likelihood, produce better racing than the Cup Series week after week.
 
As far as the Chase goes no body truly knows who would win without it as some people might race differently thought out the season.


With this again I still think the Cup drivers should stick to racing the Cup races. I also hate how they cry if they race these races and the Nationwide drivers race them hard and doesn't race them clean. Its like don't like it stay out our yard
 
How are we suppose to have any new drivers come up if Cup guys are always in the Nationwide series. These guys aren't gonna be around forever we have to build the future.
 
...Fine by me, because for the rest of us, a series void of big name prima donna drivers and big money teams would, in all likelihood, produce better racing than the Cup Series week after week.

Or............NOT. This sport has evolved, just like NASCAR wanted. Sure, back in the day of benchseats, football helmets and chrome bumpers NASCAR wasn't really concerned about the big dollar or corporate sponsorships. Times change, the sport isn't the same as it used-to-was.
 
Or............NOT. This sport has evolved, just like NASCAR wanted. Sure, back in the day of benchseats, football helmets and chrome bumpers NASCAR wasn't really concerned about the big dollar or corporate sponsorships. Times change, the sport isn't the same as it used-to-was.

NASCAR's got a rude awakening coming. Corporate sponsors are bailing left and right (and leaving a path of destruction in doing so).

Instead of realizing the sport grew too much and is now downsizing, NASCAR's making dumbass move one after another to stay large enough for their current pants.

NASCAR needs to come back east and run short tracks. They're gonna find pulling IRP from the schedule has pissed off a lot of fans... maybe not the fans who will only watch races that Kyle, Carl or Kasey are in -- but everyone else.

This is a lose-lose for everyone.
 
This is a lose-lose for everyone.

It's a loss for the fans who loved IRP.

It's a loss for Indianapolis Motor Speedway, as they're going to find many people will not support the Nationwide race at The Brickyard and makes the 400 even less special.

It's a loss for NASCAR because many more fans will now turn their back on them.
 
NASCAR's got a rude awakening coming. Corporate sponsors are bailing left and right (and leaving a path of destruction in doing so).

Instead of realizing the sport grew too much and is now downsizing, NASCAR's making dumbass move one after another to stay large enough for their current pants.

NASCAR needs to come back east and run short tracks. They're gonna find pulling IRP from the schedule has pissed off a lot of fans... maybe not the fans who will only watch races that Kyle, Carl or Kasey are in -- but everyone else.

This is a lose-lose for everyone.

Agreed 100% :beerbang:
 
NASCAR's got a rude awakening coming. Corporate sponsors are bailing left and right (and leaving a path of destruction in doing so).

Instead of realizing the sport grew too much and is now downsizing, NASCAR's making dumbass move one after another to stay large enough for their current pants.

NASCAR needs to come back east and run short tracks. They're gonna find pulling IRP from the schedule has pissed off a lot of fans... maybe not the fans who will only watch races that Kyle, Carl or Kasey are in -- but everyone else.

This is a lose-lose for everyone.

Kasey who? :D
 
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If you can't run with the big dogs then stay on the porch.

BS statement if there ever was one. Sure, might apply if the the NNS guys were trying to go to the cups guys porch, but it's the other way around.

Truth be told, attendance will continue slipping from the already light turnout we have at most of the tracks for the Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series.
Television ratings are hardly impressive for the lower series even with Cup drivers dominating. Some fans will make an extra effort to attend a race or watch on television with the special appearances of Dale Earnhardt Jr. or Danica Patrick.

But they don't need to be impressive. These are really lower level series, and have always been, and will always be lower series. And notice he uses the words "occasional appearances." Every frickin week is a bit different than "occasional."

Until those drivers achieve wins against the CUP drivers, show some good rivalries and unique personalities, the series will flounder without the stars of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.

So how, exactly, is this supposed to happen when the Cup guys are the focus of the event.

Even the great venue of Bristol Motor Speedway had a fan turnout for the last Nationwide series race that verged on embarrassing.

And the Cup attendance hasn't been much better at Bristol lately. Hell, he argues that the Cup stars in the house are what's bringing the fans out, and there were plenty of Cup stars racing at Bristol.

NASCAR is trying to be as fair as possible with drivers in the lower series. They forced the drivers to choose a series thereby eliminating CUP drivers from contending for the championship against the future stars.

Yawn. Hell, looks how many people kept asking, fo a lot of weeks, "did the NNS winner score any points?"

Even former CUP drivers like Elliott Sadler and Jason Leffler can't seem to beat Kyle Busch or Carl Edwards.

Hell, those guys couldn't compete at the Cup level, so it's a surprise they can't down there either?

Quite frankly, I won't even watch anymore because the same cup guys are there, and it's already a fore drawn conclusion who's going to win.

But, since you're so happy with the same Cup guys winning on Saturdays, over and over and over again, enjoy yourself. I'll be somewhere else.
 
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BS statement if there ever was one. Sure, might apply if the the NNS guys were trying to go to the cups guys porch, but it's the other way around...

Really?? When I was racing, before I turned Pro, I would go out of town and race non-sanctioned events and run in the Pro class and beat two-thirds of the Pros at their own track. What that did for me was teach me how to go faster.
 
Really?? When I was racing, before I turned Pro, I would go out of town and race non-sanctioned events and run in the Pro class and beat two-thirds of the Pros at their own track. What that did for me was teach me how to go faster.

Yeah before you was PRO you went and raced with them. Not them coming to race with you
 
Yeah before you was PRO you went and raced with them. Not them coming to race with you

Pros cannot sign up to race in Sportsman classes.
You're not going to get faster in any motorsport racing people that are "only as fast as you are".
 
Pros cannot sign up to race in Sportsman classes.
You're not going to get faster in any motorsport racing people that are "only as fast as you are".

But like we both said, you went to their porch, they didn't come to yours.

And i maintain my dislike of it, and will continue to stay away from the same-old, same-old every week with the so called NNS series. Enjoy.
 
But like we both said, you went to their porch, they didn't come to yours.

And i maintain my dislike of it, and will continue to stay away from the same-old, same-old every week with the so called NNS series. Enjoy.

But the Nationwide guys said they like it because it is a learning experience for them.
I wish the Pros could have come into our Sportsman class races but they couldn't. I had to go to non-sanctioned events to get the experience because I wasn't old enough to turn Pro in the class that I was racing. I was winning Friday nights and Sundays for months and was not getting any faster because there was nobody in my class to learn from. I learned a lot running out of town with the Pros. I'm just saying that it seems that most of the Nationwide drivers welcome the Cup guys in their class (especially now because the Cup guys cannot earn points) simply because they can learn from them.
 
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