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Did everyone notice how jr got a way bigger lead, when he took the lead then what anyone else did. He had atleast a 2 car lead, and needed no drafting help to take the lead.

Jr fans dont go into your crazy mode, Im not saying he cheated. You can say what you want but dei still has something the other teams do not. Also when tony had drafting help he could not even touch jr.

Let the excuses start.
 
Originally posted by smack500@Feb 15 2004, 05:00 PM

Let the excuses start.
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I agree! it will be great to see everyone complaining about DEI's advantage at the plate races again. :lol:
 
No excuses needed, JR. had at least a 5 car length lead at one point but backed down so as not to lose the draft and get passed.If there is something wrong with that I'm sure it will show up in post race inspection. which by the way isn't done behind closed doors.
congrats Dale JR. and team.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
 
Darn it Smack..........I just hate it when I agree with you!! :XXROFL:

And thanks for your honesty.............man, I've missed you for the last year and a half!!! :D
 
Originally posted by smack500@Feb 15 2004, 05:00 PM
Jr fans dont go into your crazy mode, Im not saying he cheated. You can say what you want but dei still has something the other teams do not. Also when tony had drafting help he could not even touch jr.

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What did you start this thread for then?
 
Jr. was doing that in practice, once he got out in front no one could pass him, why is it when in the yates hayday it was raw horsepower keeping those cars out front and when DEI does it, it's a conspricy.
 
If it had been Harvick, Sadler, Biffle, or Busch out front nobody would have been able to pass them either.
 
Hmmmmm.............I'm pretty sure I saw Jr pass Tony unassisted. :)
 
I was just saying that dei must have something the other teams dont, I just felt the need to complain lol.


Btw I missed you too dew :D, and cutie glad to see yall are back.
 
Yes, DEI does have something figured out............but others are catching up fast!! Tony ran with him, Kurt ran with him, Gregg ran with him for a while, even Scott ran with him on two tires!! :D Got to get all the wins while you can..........I doubt DEI's edge will last past this year!!
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Feb 15 2004, 08:13 PM
Hmmmmm.............I'm pretty sure I saw Jr pass Tony unassisted. :)
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Thats why I did not list Stewart. I never thought that he had that awesome of a car.
 
Other then jr taking the lead, there was no other incidents of drivers taking the lead with no assitance. Not to mention jr had no assistance while tony did.
 
Originally posted by racer8@Feb 15 2004, 06:12 PM
No excuses needed, JR. had at least a 5 car length lead at one point but backed down so as not to lose the draft and get passed.If there is something wrong with that I'm sure it will show up in post race inspection. which by the way isn't done behind closed doors.
congrats Dale JR. and team.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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On TV they never showed an inspector checking the spoiler of JRs car. He left the finish line across the grass and went straight to winners circle.

I am not saying it did not get checked but they never showed it.
 
Don't worry, Jr's car will be gone over with a fine toothed comb before the race becomes "official". If he cheated it will be found out. :)


When will it end. :blink:
 
Never,it's funny I remember when Sterling was driving the 4 car and was the dominate car on the restricor plate tracks,I guess Nascar let him cheat to win. Get real people.
 
Good start Smack! Jr raced a racer's race, dei DOES seem to dominate plate races, and I for one am realy sick of all the conspiracy theory BS!
 
Originally posted by kat2220@Feb 15 2004, 09:44 PM
dei DOES seem to dominate plate races, and I for one am realy sick of all the conspiracy theory BS!
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you're not alone kat. :angry:
 
Thanks you two! Maybe more should THINK, reread and do some research before they post! Sometimes I am guilty of just firing off a response out of frustration with a post (and who isn't). I'll try to follow my own advice!
 
Taking all things into consideration

1. He was tutored by the greatest plate racer of all time.

2. He has the genes.

3. DEI spends hundreds of thousands on plate cars.

4. Jr's cars aren't junk to begin with.

and you have a great plate racer.
 
Originally posted by kat2220@Feb 15 2004, 11:08 PM
Thanks you two! Maybe more should THINK, reread and do some research before they post! Sometimes I am guilty of just firing off a response out of frustration with a post (and who isn't). I'll try to follow my own advice!
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Geez. Now you want us to THINK before we post. Man, this is getting hard. :lol:

Just remember we are all :einstein:
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Feb 15 2004, 11:12 PM
Taking all things into consideration


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3. DEI spends hundreds of thousands on plate cars.



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I'd say millions if you count man hours, tony eury sr. said they have been workin 12-14 hour days for over a month
 
I almost put millions, but then I thought well maybe not millions. :idunno:
 
Im pretty sure I said over and over I didnt think he cheated, I never have thought he has cheated.


I love how people like to put words in my mouth. I was just saying he had the dominate car and thats why he won. More credit should go to his whole team.
 
Which brings up the old question...

Is it the car or the driver?
 
Smack I for one never said (nor even implied) that you said he cheated. But you know as well as I that many will think that anyway. Heck I've already read a post about his spoiler not be checked by the officials (or at least it wasn't shown on TV). I know you well enough to know that when you say something, you say it out right..........ain't no beating around the bush with you my friend!! :D Guess that's why I like arguing with you........you are fair when you discuss stuff!! :cheers:
 
Originally posted by slick-nick@Feb 15 2004, 10:09 PM
Which brings up the old question...

Is it the car or the driver?
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Well, I hope we can agree on one thing.

Plate races are more car than driver.

As far as any conspiracy goes, I read all that B.S. when Gordon was dominating. I understand what Smack was saying, yes, DEI has better cars at plate tracks, that is obvious. One has to believe in the system though if they are going to watch the races. I trust the inspection process 100% until it is proven otherwise, about any team. You would be blind to think that the DEI cars do not have an advantage, whether it is aero or horsepower, they have it, but as I type this, I believe that they are within the written rules and until something is found, illegal or legal and if a new rule needs to be written, then so be it. Until then it's off to the next race with pure optimism, a clean slate.
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Feb 16 2004, 12:27 AM
Smack I for one never said (nor even implied) that you said he cheated.  But you know as well as I that many will think that anyway.  Heck I've already read a post about his spoiler not be checked by the officials (or at least it wasn't shown on TV).  I know you well enough to know that when you say something, you say it out right..........ain't no beating around the bush with you my friend!! :D  Guess that's why I like arguing with you........you are fair when you discuss stuff!! :cheers:
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It seems like everytime I read one of your post, I respect you more :) . If you keep on I might feel bad about argueing with you.

I knew you didn't think I was claiming that he cheated, I just felt some did. I wanted it cleared up right away.

Anyway on to the ROCK !!! :cheers:
 
i saw some guys in the shootout and 125s doing what jr did today.

no big deal to me, just wish blaney or someone like that won
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Feb 15 2004, 11:12 PM
Taking all things into consideration

1. He was tutored by the greatest plate racer of all time.

2. He has the genes.

3. DEI spends hundreds of thousands on plate cars.

4. Jr's cars aren't junk to begin with.

and you have a great plate racer.
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1. Ok, if you say so.

2. I hate to break it to y'all, but there are dozens of drivers who were more than able to feed the late great Dale Earnhardt his lunch. Sit down, please, I wouldn't want anyone getting injured from passing out.

3. ...and no one else does that. Just them. :rolleyes:

4. And neither are 30 out of the other 40 cars competing against him.



Open your eyes and see what's in front of you. No one can pass all day except one car. No car could even stay with someone without help but one car can pass three on his own. It's the same car every plate race. But because he's Dale's boy he's legal. Dale Earnhardt, one of the dirtiest drivers in the history of stock car racing, so maybe the nut didn't fall all that far from the tree after all.
 
:lol: :lol: Boy, I've been waiting for you to get here all morning EMP. You're like a breath of fresh air. Oh yeah.

1. I do say so.

2. Maybe but it didn't happen that often. (at a plate track)

3. Pretty much the only shop that has a team that only works on plate cars.

4. Not at Daytona or Talladega.
 
The fact that Junior passed Stewart by himself with Busch and Wimmer pushing Stewart was enough for me to see, I mean come on now 3 cars on the outside and 1 car on the inside and Junior kept even with Stewart for almost 2 laps... sorry, but no car could do that all day, and under the current rules package no car could have the chance to that, unless... nah Nascar wouldnt do that, would they? :p
 
Originally posted by bowtie@Feb 16 2004, 12:57 PM
:lol: :lol: Boy, I've been waiting for you to get here all morning EMP. You're like a breath of fresh air. Oh yeah.

1. I do say so.

2. Maybe but it didn't happen that often. (at a plate track)

3. Pretty much the only shop that has a team that only works on plate cars.

4. Not at Daytona or Talladega.
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You guys are gonna be a classic rivalry (since I am officially reformed,damn it.) :cheers: :cheers:
 
With all the conspiracy theories being tossed about, perhaps we should have someone investigate. Let's call Muldar and Scully, they'll get to the bottom of this once and for all. ;)
 
Originally posted by 97forever@Feb 16 2004, 02:58 PM
:wub: :wub: Dana Scully! :wub: :wub:



UH...sorry, that's just the way my mind works.
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Yeah, we are aware of your condition! :p





:wub:
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Feb 16 2004, 01:40 PM



Open your eyes and see what's in front of you. No one can pass all day except one car. No car could even stay with someone without help but one car can pass three on his own. It's the same car every plate race.
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So when Sterling was driving the 4 car and was dominating the plate tracks,nascar was letting them cheat huh?
 
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