AMEN HUMPY...AMEN Brother.

humpy is always interesting to hear from. I wish the guy was on TV more. but I have to say humpy have you ever head of Mav TV?? the lucas oil people. further there hasn't been any better friends to racing than lucas oil. Add to that some darn good people at lucas oil. Mav tv appears to have embraced good ole american values, values that made our country great. I for one love the hell out of that sort of thing.
 
Zerkfitting said:
I hope a new Speedvision comes along but it will be tough with the crown jewels controlled by Fox and NBC.
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I think there is still a big hole that can be filled. You can have pre race and post race shows for Nascar if it is allowed, plenty of short track coverage, dirt and asphalt..do it like it used to be with small venues series and races, I bet Tony would be on board at Eldora. low budget, keep it simple and target it for the all around racing fans like Humpy is talking about. Stadium rally cars, monster trucks, flat track motorcycles, lots or racing out there that isn't being covered. A lot of the whining on FS1 is because they have racing, the stick n ballers don't like racing that much, and a lot of the race fans could cars less for the mix and the diminished coverage also. Hoping Humpy is on track and somebody steps up. Let em football Nascar around, plenty of good racing left besides that.
 
I agree there is a HUGE hole that needs filled, and hopefully it's just a matter of time before something steps up to replace Speed. If I could start my own cable channel, I would secure the rights to broadcast all the Camping World Truck Series races, AMA Supercross, ALMS/GT, World of Outlaws, and a few other lesser-known racing series. Is Robby Gordon's Stadium Truck Series any good? I absolutely loved watching the American Speed Association back in the 90s. Maybe a little Hooters Pro Cup, K&N Pro Series, stuff like that here and there. Everything else would be small-time racing like Humpy was talking about.

When races aren't being shown, there could be a few hours of filler every day with shows like Gearz, Pass Time, Barrett Jackson auctions, Wind Tunnel w/ Dave Despain, etc. But for the most part it would be all racing whether it's asphalt or dirt or cars, trucks, bikes, sprint cars, whatever. Boat racing, lawn mower racing, rally racing, whatever! Just give us back a channel that is all motorsports, all the time!
 
Mav TV doesn't do exactly what we are talking about. It would if it was available to a larger audience I guess. I and many others haven't ever seen it. Humpy is talking about a much bigger coverage entity that hopefully will fill the void. Could be MAV if it became available to more viewers. hell if I know, just somebody do something. The gang at Nascar isn't saying nothing, your are sure not going to hear anything from the pukes at Fox, they are treating Nascar like something that smells on their shoe that they can't get off, not to mention all the good shows that they cancelled.
 
mav tv comes with basic dish and direct tv packages so if you have either of those you should be seeing it. however its just been in the last few months its came on those.
 
hidesert cowboy said:
mav tv comes with basic dish and direct tv packages so if you have either of those you should be seeing it. however its just been in the last few months its came on those.
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Not on my Dish package. I found the channel but it is not active on my account. It stated that I would have to upgrade. It is only available if you are upgraded to the Blockbuster @Home package.
 
The goal is IMO to have something that is as good or better then speed was..widely available. Could be an internet streaming channel, or TV, whatever. I, like Humpy think there is a need that will be filled by something. I crunch the numbers to unbundle and switch to a dish with close to the same programming and I will pay over 50 bucks a month to watch MAVtv. B.S. on that. And then in a year, no telling what those weasels will jump it up to.
 
interesting, I have the most basic dish package and it comes with it. I just switched from direct tv and had it there too.
 
I wonder if MAVTV will be available in more homes when they pick up rights to the IndyCar Series.
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hidesert cowboy said:
interesting, I have the most basic dish package and it comes with it. I just switched from direct tv and had it there too.
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soon as your contract runs out, ya gotta switch to the other because they have a swinging deal..and then you got to switch back to the other one for their cut throat deal. Or you bend over..I've already done the dish shuffle, and the phone shuffle..I ain't playin anymore.:)
 
Its one thing for Humpy to say that but part of the reason lower series aren't on tv that match is because they are not tv profitable. I love racing, I'd watch anything but a network has to make some money. Nascar in this country has cornered the market and a racing channel in 40 million homes is just going to attract a small niche. Every race shown would be on tape delay and production would be as cost effective as possible.
 
Lazyking said:
Its one thing for Humpy to say that but part of the reason lower series aren't on tv that match is because they are not tv profitable. I love racing, I'd watch anything but a network has to make some money. Nascar in this country has cornered the market and a racing channel in 40 million homes is just going to attract a small niche. Every race shown would be on tape delay and production would be as cost effective as possible.
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Don't know where you get the part that it isn't profitable, Speed was doing ok, it is just that the Fox weasels wanted to do something different. Plenty of channels that didn't have the ratings that speed had and so far with begillions spent on self promotion and bevies of Blondes who don't know nothing about sports, Fs2 isn't doing much better and will continue to pour large amounts of capital for small gains. So anyway, there is a void and Humpy is on the right track.
 
StandOnIt said:
Don't know where you get the part that it isn't profitable, Speed was doing ok, it is just that the Fox weasels wanted to do something different. Plenty of channels that didn't have the ratings that speed had and so far with begillions spent on self promotion and bevies of Blondes who don't know nothing about sports, Fs2 isn't doing much better and will continue to pour large amounts of capital for small gains. So anyway, there is a void and Humpy is on the right track.
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I didn't say there isn't a void to be filled... Fox is going in another direction because they want to be like Espn but that really means they want more money. dirt track racing as great as it is will not beat a football game in ratings or advertizing dollars. Speed was doing fine but in Fox's mind, they can do better.

motorsports coverage in this country is Nascar, F1 (that mainly runs overseas ) and Indycar. No other series matters on the tv landscape besides on a niche, small network.
 
I'll agree to disagree then. I'm not saying I don't want or won't watch more racing..and I would love a new network devoted to everything motorsports, I just think it's been proven that grass roots racing is popular on a small scale when you look at the big picture.
 
I agree with a lot of what Humpy is saying, but I'm afraid most of it is just wishful thinking. The Speed Channel went away for a reason: it just didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. The programming had definitely deteriorated the last 5 years or so, like Humpy said, the non-racing stuff was awful. Fox obviously thought they had a better shot attracting more viewers by becoming an ESPN clone, although early results have been disappointing. I hope Humpy's right and we do get another racing channel soon, but I don't see it in the near future.
 
ToyYoda said:
I agree with a lot of what Humpy is saying, but I'm afraid most of it is just wishful thinking. The Speed Channel went away for a reason: it just didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. The programming had definitely deteriorated the last 5 years or so, like Humpy said, the non-racing stuff was awful. Fox obviously thought they had a better shot attracting more viewers by becoming an ESPN clone, although early results have been disappointing. I hope Humpy's right and we do get another racing channel soon, but I don't see it in the near future.
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The same thing happen with TNN.someone will start another race channel.
 
ToyYoda said:
I agree with a lot of what Humpy is saying, but I'm afraid most of it is just wishful thinking. The Speed Channel went away for a reason: it just didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. The programming had definitely deteriorated the last 5 years or so, like Humpy said, the non-racing stuff was awful. Fox obviously thought they had a better shot attracting more viewers by becoming an ESPN clone, although early results have been disappointing. I hope Humpy's right and we do get another racing channel soon, but I don't see it in the near future.
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I happen to think it will come about. Big part of the problem was mis-management I think. The pencil necks thought wrongly with their programming direction, tried to fill in the blanks with reality shows that were loosely auto related. As time went on, they got farther and farther away from racing. they lost their singleness of purpose. Now, they have spent a ton of money competing with another established sports channel competing for the same pool of people. I believe they have mistakenly thought that they have combed the profitable cream off of the motorsports area with Nascar's help. Cut off the good motorsports shows and replaced them with their own brand of stick n ball format twist. There is still plenty of good racing that is being ignored. V8 supercars, plenty of dirt track racing with sprints all the way to flat track motorcycles. If you have ever been to a flat track motorcycle race, you would see what I mean, lots of short track racing that isn't related to Nascar restraints, and plenty of out of work reporters to have racing shows and commentary. If you can have home and garden TV, and rehab madness, and food channels and numerous others that I don't watch that can't be that popular, there can be a widely distributed racing channel IMO. Probably end up being piecemeal, NBC, and ABC and whatever will pick up bits and pieces in the future.
 
ToyYoda said:
I agree with a lot of what Humpy is saying, but I'm afraid most of it is just wishful thinking. The Speed Channel went away for a reason: it just didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. The programming had definitely deteriorated the last 5 years or so, like Humpy said, the non-racing stuff was awful. Fox obviously thought they had a better shot attracting more viewers by becoming an ESPN clone, although early results have been disappointing. I hope Humpy's right and we do get another racing channel soon, but I don't see it in the near future.
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I don't know if you're spot on there. The articles I read said all the networks (CBS, NBC, FOX) have a craving for the big college basketball and college football contracts that ESPN is getting. That's why they're all launching/buying national sports cable networks. From what I read, it sounded like Murdoch picked Speed because he owned it and it was already widely carried by a number of cable providers and he wouldn't be starting from zero with a new network (like CBS Sports Network). I think Speed was just an unfortunate low-hanging fruit.
 
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