Balls in Na$cars court

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SST55

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Ok, what are they going to do? IMHO and the replay shows shrub pulling a slide job and getting a bit out of shape even before and continuing out of control when crossing BK's nose. He was counting on BK backing off because he's on probation. Wrong, cry baby breath.

He dumped BK in the next corner,intentionally. He admitted dumping him in at least 2 different clips I've seen.

Na$car says 'have at it boys' so does that mean it's now open season? No more 'rubbin' is racin', a racing incident?

When you admit dumping a competitor and Na$car turns a blind eye what is the sport coming too?

Joe Gibbs was a highly respected football coach, he didn't put up with cheap shots. Looks like he does now. His drivers aren't making any friends.

His other team drivers said they saw nothing wrong with shrubs action on nascar now this am. Figures. Hoping for the trifecta tonight with all 3 put in the wall. That's what would happen at my local track, 'racing incidents'.

My only advice is to cut back feeding his drivers bowls full of stupid.
 
SST55 said:
Ok, what are they going to do? IMHO and the replay shows shrub pulling a slide job and getting a bit out of shape even before and continuing out of control when crossing BK's nose. He was counting on BK backing off because he's on probation. Wrong, cry baby breath.

He dumped BK in the next corner,intentionally. He admitted dumping him in at least 2 different clips I've seen.

Na$car says 'have at it boys' so does that mean it's now open season? No more 'rubbin' is racin', a racing incident?

When you admit dumping a competitor and Na$car turns a blind eye what is the sport coming too?

Joe Gibbs was a highly respected football coach, he didn't put up with cheap shots. Looks like he does now. His drivers aren't making any friends.

His other team drivers said they saw nothing wrong with shrubs action on nascar now this am. Figures. Hoping for the trifecta tonight with all 3 put in the wall. That's what would happen at my local track, 'racing incidents'.

My only advice is to cut back feeding his drivers bowls full of stupid.
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i have the feeling Kyle will get paid back tonight!;) Ever wonder if maybe Nascar told Kyle to act like this for the attention it brings to the sport? Ok maybe I'm a Conspiracy Theorist, but I wouldn't put it past NASCAR to do this.
 
fergy1370 said:
Bobby, everyone knows you like Kyle, but when you admit you took someone out, its not "short track racing" or a "racing incident", or "good, hard racing".

If Kyle was smart enough to keep his mouth shut, he could have played that card, but he wants to be the badguy so he ran his mouth and admitted it.

http://aolsvc.sports.aol.nascar.com...ctory_lane/08/20/nns_bri2_high_winner.nascar/
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I partly agree. It was clear that he dumped him but he didn't have to say so. But it's the same kind of moves that I see at local asphalt and dirt tracks.
 
From Scene Daily.....

NASCAR has no plans to talk to Kyle Busch or consider penalizing him following his wreck with Brad Keselowski in the Nationwide Series race Friday night at Bristol Motor Speedway, NASCAR Vice President of Competition Robin Pemberton said Saturday.

“Hard racing,” Pemberton said. “When you look at it, he pushed him around the corner and he said he did that. He didn’t hook him in the rear quarter panel. Those guys had been giving and taking all night long and all of that stuff came into play in a lap.

“You evaluate what real estate it was in and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it was two guys racing hard. They were bumping and running and they were not giving each other any space if they didn’t have to in the closing laps of the race. Nobody else was involved.”

“We don’t expect to [talk with Busch],” Pemberton said. “If those guys develop some sort of history, we’ll look at it later on. But right now, those guys are racing pretty darn hard.”
 
Sorry, I just don't see how in the hell Nascar can wait until this late in the game and say a damned word if Busch---or anyone else--- takes out half the infield. I am not, (and never in ten thousand posts on here do I contradict myself), a fan of bash-crash racing and never, ever have been.

But it got Earnhardt into the hall of freaking fame......and to any one with eyes, it's clear that Kyle is nothing other than the brand spanking new 21st century version of Dale Earnhardt Sr. The only difference is Kyle has balls enough to admit he's a rough driver.:D

Hell, Nascar would give their eye teeth if Stewart or Harvick used Kyle's Earnhardt-style tactics. I just can not watch the guy race and see one ounce difference between his style and Sr's.
 
Everyone tries to act like Kyle is the only driver to intentional wreck someone. What did Jeff say after he wrecked Matt, "I was going to make sure he didn't win". Did anyone calls for Jeff's head on a platter for wrecking Matt and saying he meant to? I like them more when they do it and say they did, instead of all of this, "well I really didn't mean to wreck him and I hate that it happened".
 
JustMe said:
Everyone tries to act like Kyle is the only driver to intentional wreck someone. What did Jeff say after he wrecked Matt, "I was going to make sure he didn't win". Did anyone calls for Jeff's head on a platter for wrecking Matt and saying he meant to? I like them more when they do it and say they did, instead of all of this, "well I really didn't mean to wreck him and I hate that it happened".
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Yes.
 
I've come to the conclusion watching Kyle this year that he's still very immature. In fact, he hasn't matured at all like Kurt did.

Remember Phoenix, when Kyle didn't go on the restart? Then, on the next restart, he JUMPED the restart... blamed the whole thing on Keselowski and NASCAR.

The dude needs to learn to admit to his own mistakes and stop acting like a child in the car. Listen to his scanner during a race. Instead of telling the team what's wrong with the car, he bad mouths the crew, the car and is a genuine smartass on the radio.

There's so much attitude he has that I like, but his immaturity is the reason he hasn't won a Sprint Cup championship.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
From Scene Daily.....

NASCAR has no plans to talk to Kyle Busch or consider penalizing him following his wreck with Brad Keselowski in the Nationwide Series race Friday night at Bristol Motor Speedway, NASCAR Vice President of Competition Robin Pemberton said Saturday.

“Hard racing,” Pemberton said. “When you look at it, he pushed him around the corner and he said he did that. He didn’t hook him in the rear quarter panel. Those guys had been giving and taking all night long and all of that stuff came into play in a lap.

“You evaluate what real estate it was in and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it was two guys racing hard. They were bumping and running and they were not giving each other any space if they didn’t have to in the closing laps of the race. Nobody else was involved.”

“We don’t expect to [talk with Busch],” Pemberton said. “If those guys develop some sort of history, we’ll look at it later on. But right now, those guys are racing pretty darn hard.”
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Spoken like a true ALCOHOLIC....:beerbang::beerbang:
 
The other question is, if Brad wasn't on probation (thus unable to retaliate in any way, shape or form), does anyone think Kyle would've wrecked him?

The Jennifer Jo Cobb situation is different, Kyle had no reason to wreck her at all. He just did. Kind of like Pensacola last year, he had no reason to wreck Johanna Long (other than the fact that he was getting his ass kicked by a teenage girl), but he did.
 
All I'm saying is it's sad when ARCA has tougher penalties for this kind of behavior than what NASCAR doesn't have.
 
That has to be the lamest excuse to ever come out of na$car, drunk or sober.

The azzhat said he wrecked him on purpose, no ifs, ands or buts and not even a sit down? BULL

Maybe a email to JGR saying how disappointed I am in a man who had my respect as a coach allows these kind of antics from his drivers,,,
 
97forever said:
No, it's cool, but you DID read it wrong. My point in both post is exactly the same: it's 30 years too late for Nascar to pretend to be indignant about crash-driving now.
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But it's been more frequent this year than it has in a long time?

Oh yeah, I wasn't too keen on Earnhardt's full contact driving style either. But usually, when he wrecked someone, he could make it look like the other guys' fault (with the exception of Bristol '99 of course)
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
All I'm saying is it's sad when ARCA has tougher penalties for this kind of behavior than what NASCAR doesn't have.
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I watched the video you posted. Now that's some Days of Thunder type payback.

As far a tougher penalties, well, I guess that's the new NASCAR and the 'Boys Have @ It' mentality.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
But it's been more frequent this year than it has in a long time?

Oh yeah, I wasn't too keen on Earnhardt's full contact driving style either. But usually, when he wrecked someone, he could make it look like the other guys' fault (with the exception of Bristol '99 of course)
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I agree...it does seem more frequent now than in the last few years.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I watched the video you posted. Now that's some Days of Thunder type payback.

As far a tougher penalties, well, I guess that's the new NASCAR and the 'Boys Have @ It' mentality.
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I saw that whole thing coming. There was a lot of talk in ARCAville after that race that Stenhouse had told other people he was going to wreck Scott Speed. Not to mention, Speed wasn't very popular with some of the other drivers with his constant bad-mouthing of ARCA. And that was THE reason Justin Allgaier won that championship -- an unbelievable race at the Toledo bullring.

NASCAR's trying too hard to be Days of Thunder.
 
97forever said:
I agree...it does seem more frequent now than in the last few years.
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By few, you mean 15. I've been watching NASCAR for 15-16 years and have never seen so many dirty racers.

I did gain a lot of respect for Brad last night though, he handled that situation well whereas I would've gone to victory lane and punched Mr. Busch in the face Jimmy Spencer style!
 
So when Newman walls lagano there should be no protest or penalty, or BK repays the favor to azzhat tonight. No harm no foul???

If there is I'm done with na$car:eek:
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I watched the video you posted. Now that's some Days of Thunder type payback.

As far a tougher penalties, well, I guess that's the new NASCAR and the 'Boys Have @ It' mentality.
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That silly Days Of Thunder and the gaggingly overused movie line of 'rubbin's racin' in my opinion set this sport back a looooong way by legitimizing smash-and-crash driving to begin with.
 
SST55 said:
So when Newman walls lagano there should be no protest or penalty, or BK repays the favor to azzhat tonight. No harm no foul???

If there is I'm done with na$car:eek:
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BK can't repay the favor to Shrub because he's on probation.

Newman will probably school Joey Logano sometime tonight. But, since I'm not a fan of tearing up racecars, I would've rather seen Ryan beat the crap out of the crybaby last weekend.
 
97forever said:
That silly Days Of Thunder and the gaggingly overused movie line of 'rubbin's racin' in my opinion set this sport back a looooong way by legitimizing smash-and-crash driving to begin with.
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It's a movie.:rolleyes:

Anyone who watches racing and drives a racecar should know you can't race like that and expect to be running at the end of the race. Those guys destroyed racecars in that movie.

Still one of my all time favorites.

"We put on a set of specially matched tires Cole"
 
There does seem to be a lot of incidents this year, I'll tell you what if you did that kind of crap at our local tracks you would start at the back of the field during the re-start. But hey Nascar wanted this kind of stuff, they asked for it, just wait when some one gets hurt, then what? Ok "have at it", but..... just not too hard???:confused::rolleyes:
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Newman will probably school Joey Logano sometime tonight. But, since I'm not a fan of tearing up racecars, I would've rather seen Ryan beat the crap out of the crybaby last weekend.
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I just want to see Newman make it as tough as he can for Logano to get by should the same situation arise again this week.
 
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