Bill Lester looking for a new ride

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From Jayski.com:

Bill Lester, the only African-American driver regularly competing in any of NASCAR's top three divisions, is out looking for a new ride. Lester has been driving on the Craftsman Truck Series in a #8 Dodge owned by Bobby Hamilton and sponsored through a diversity program funded by Dodge. But Dodge is dropping the diversity program and Hamilton isn't going to run the truck without a sponsor. Dodge spokesman Todd Goyer said the company started the diversity program three years ago with the hope that some other corporation would step in and pick up the program. That never happened, although in July, General Mills put Lester's picture on boxes of Honey Nut Cheerios. "We started with a two-year program and extended it for a year," Goyer said. "But the bottom line is that we can't carry the flag alone." Lester has been Dodge's minority driver for the past two seasons and has shown promise. He runs best on superspeedways and won the pole at Charlotte earlier this year. He's 13th in points heading into Saturday's race at Martinsville and has an average start of 13th and an average finish of 18th (usually 36 or so drivers are in Craftsman fields). Goyer said the failure of Dodge's diversity program shouldn't be blamed on Lester. "Bill certainly represented us well," Goyer said. While Lester said he's unsure where he'll be racing next year, NASCAR officials are certain he'll be back behind the wheel of a competitive truck. "I feel confident that Bill Lester will be competing again next year," said NASCAR vice president Jim Hunter. Lester said he's appreciative of what Dodge's program did for him but disappointed that other companies didn't follow Dodge's lead. "Everybody talks about diversity but very few step up and put their money where their mouth is," he said. "It's unfortunate that Dodge is dropping this program, but you can't fault their position. No one else came forward."
 
Hate to hear that. He is a good qualifier, but didn't seem to be able to keep the truck driving good. I guess you can chalk that up to chemistry with his chrew chiefs. Me thinks this is the last we'll see of Bill.
 
Maybe Jesse Jackson should put his PUSH Coalition money where his mouth is and PUSH sponsor Bill Lester! :growl:
 
Just my not so humble opinion.....

BHR shafted Bill Lester and used him for personal gain in much the same way that Fitz/Bradshaw has used Kerry E.

While Bobby ALWAYS seemed to have competitive trucks, the ones he fielded for Bill were lucky to not be lapped before the first round of pit stops.
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 10:17 AM
Just my not so humble opinion.....

BHR shafted Bill Lester and used him for personal gain in much the same way that Fitz/Bradshaw has used Kerry E.

While Bobby ALWAYS seemed to have competitive trucks, the ones he fielded for Bill were lucky to not be lapped before the first round of pit stops.
Totally agree. BHR looks out for 2 people, bobby and jr.
 
Originally posted by muggle not+Oct 17 2003, 10:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muggle not @ Oct 17 2003, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 10:17 AM
Just my not so humble opinion.....

BHR shafted Bill Lester and used him for personal gain in much the same way that Fitz/Bradshaw has used Kerry E.

While Bobby ALWAYS seemed to have competitive trucks, the ones he fielded for Bill were lucky to not be lapped before the first round of pit stops.
Totally agree. BHR looks out for 2 people, bobby and jr. [/b][/quote]
I totally agree with you two. The reason Kerry wrecked all those times and ran poorly was because of poor driving ability, Bill wrecked and ran poorly because of inferior equipment. RCR should give Chad Chaffin the #30 ride. If he can finish top ten in points his rookie year with junk equipment, there's no telling how many Winston Cup championships he could win.
 
Well dango mango, look at Todd Bodine. Continually saddled up on a slower horse, the chances he takes have to be greater and the greater the risk the greater the chance of failure.

The kid flat knows how to drive a racecar with the wild abandon that legends are made of. Same with Jimmy Spencer, and Boris Said but it be hero or zero stuff for all three.

Back to Bill.......Bill has a proven record of success in every series he has ever raced in with his poorest showings in NASCAR Trucks. I mean my gosh, how do ya grab a pole and drop out of the top twenty by lap 10 while the boss cruises away unless yer crew just flat out doesn't have a clue?

I don't recall if it was lap 10 or not but it sure did seem that way. The truck had no freaking chance of keeping up.
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 11:38 AM

Back to Bill.......Bill has a proven record of success in every series he has ever raced in with his poorest showings in NASCAR Trucks. I mean my gosh, how do ya grab a pole and drop out of the top twenty by lap 10 while the boss cruises away unless yer crew just flat out doesn't have a clue?

I don't recall if it was lap 10 or not but it sure did seem that way. The truck had no freaking chance of keeping up.
Lack of driving ability. There are quite a few drivers who can qualify good but can't stay up there on race day.
 
Originally posted by park30fan+Oct 17 2003, 10:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (park30fan @ Oct 17 2003, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 11:38 AM

Back to Bill.......Bill has a proven record of success in every series he has ever raced in with his poorest showings in NASCAR Trucks. I mean my gosh, how do ya grab a pole and drop out of the top twenty by lap 10 while the boss cruises away unless yer crew just flat out doesn't have a clue?

I don't recall if it was lap 10 or not but it sure did seem that way. The truck had no freaking chance of keeping up.
Lack of driving ability. There are quite a few drivers who can qualify good but can't stay up there on race day. [/b][/quote]
Like Steve?

Or is it all the crap equipment he gets to drive?
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 04:16 PM

Like Steve?

Or is it all the crap equipment he gets to drive?
Nice try. If Steve was doing that bad in the Truck Series, I'd say he doesn't belong in NASCAR. He finished in the top 5 in his only Busch race this year, something Lester has never been able to do in the Truck Series.
 
Not trying anything but to show you how silly your arguement becomes when someone you favor is held to an equal standard.

Just a guess here that you think Steve deserves a Cup ride. How can someone who is sitting 32 in points in the series he races in be any more deserving of a ride in that series than someone who sits 13th in the series they race in?
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 05:38 PM
Not trying anything but to show you how silly your arguement becomes when someone you favor is held to an equal standard.

Just a guess here that you think Steve deserves a Cup ride. How can someone who is sitting 32 in points in the series he races in be any more deserving of a ride in that series than someone who sits 13th in the series they race in?
Considering that there are only 14 competitive teams in the Truck series vs. the 30 or so in Winston Cup, and that the difference between each car is much closer than the difference between each truck, there's no argument for someone running that poorly in a top notch truck.
I do think at this point maybe Steve should step back to the Busch Series or Trucks just to show himself and everyone else he can still win.
 
How do you figure Bill has a top notch trucK in one post and agree that BHR cares only about Bobby and Bobby Jr in another?

And how do you figure 13th in points is poorly? I'ld say that's pretty dern good.
 
Originally posted by park30fan+Oct 17 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (park30fan @ Oct 17 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 04:16 PM

Like Steve?

Or is it all the crap equipment he gets to drive?
Nice try. If Steve was doing that bad in the Truck Series, I'd say he doesn't belong in NASCAR. He finished in the top 5 in his only Busch race this year, something Lester has never been able to do in the Truck Series. [/b][/quote]
hmmmm I wonder who owns that car that he got a top 5 in. :p
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 06:00 PM
How do you figure Bill has a top notch trucK in one post and agree that BHR cares only about Bobby and Bobby Jr in another?

And how do you figure 13th in points is poorly? I'ld say that's pretty dern good.
I was being sarcastic in my post that I agreed with you about BHR only caring about Bobby and Jr. You didn't really think I thought Chad Chaffin was Winston Cup material, did you? Only 14 teams have run all all 22 races in the Truck Series this year, and the only full-timers behind him are way underfinanced compared to the top teams.
1 -- Brendan Gaughan 3459 Leader 22 6 14 18 $591,735
2 -- Travis Kvapil 3429 -30 22 1 13 20 $458,830
3 -- Ted Musgrave 3386 -73 22 3 13 16 $529,645
4 -- Dennis Setzer 3342 -117 22 3 13 20 $430,740
5 -- Jon Wood 3186 -273 22 1 9 17 $353,455
6 -- Bobby Hamilton 3132 -327 22 1 7 15 $337,015
7 -- Rick Crawford 3113 -346 22 1 8 14 $371,840
8 -- Carl Edwards* 2994 -465 22 3 11 13 $483,865
9 -- Terry Cook 2861 -598 22 0 0 13 $252,680
10 -- Chad Chaffin 2779 -680 22 0 2 8 $252,340
11 -- Matt Crafton 2756 -703 22 0 0 11 $251,570

12 -- Robert Pressley 2464 -995 19 0 4 8 $266,730
13 -- Bill Lester 2403 -1056 22 0 0 1 $226,030
14 -- David Starr 2310 -1149 18 0 4 10 $221,685
15 -- Jason Leffler 2209 -1250 16 1 5 10 $270,210
16 -- Randy MacDonald 2185 -1274 22 0 0 0 $220,975
17 -- Jerry Hill 1882 -1577 22 0 0 0 $194,525

18 -- Jody Lavender* 1871 -1588 18 0 0 0 $179,295
19 -- Randy Briggs* 1618 -1841 17 0 0 0 $173,685
20 -- Phil Bonifield 1302 -2157 18 0 0 0 $143,775
21 +1 Andy Houston 1193 -2266 9 0 2 5 $107,980
22 -1 Tina Gordon* 1112 -2347 11 0 0 0 $108,465
23 +1 T.J. Bell* 1059 -2400 12 0 0 0 $109,180
24 +1 Lance Hooper 1033 -2426 15 0 0 0 $123,800
25 -2 Rich Bickle 1000 -2459 9 0 0 2 $94,930
26 -- Ken Schrader 965 -2494 8 0 0 2 $72,735
27 +1 Eric Jones 937 -2522 8 0 0 1 $76,235
28 -1 Bobby Dotter 839 -2620 9 0 0 0 $83,755
29 -- Morgan Shepherd 805 -2654 13 0 0 0 $105,760
30 -- Stan Boyd 799 -2660 12 0 0 0 $112,130
31 -- Doug Keller* 674 -2785 8 0 0 0 $62,015
32 +5 Chris Horn 625 -2834 7 0 0 0 $64,170
33 -1 Jamie Aube 624 -2835 9 0 0 0 $67,087
34 -1 Kevin Harvick 622 -2837 5 0 2 3 $48,445
35 +4 Shane Wallace 618 -2841 6 0 0 0 $52,510
36 +2 David Stover 607 -2852 7 0 0 0 $57,505
37 -3 Ricky Sanders 573 -2886 6 0 0 0 $56,190
38 -3 Paul Menard 572 -2887 5 0 0 1 $47,295
39 -3 L W Miller 558 -2901 6 0 0 0 $56,090
40 +3 Kenny Hendrick 540 -2919 10 0 0 0 $79,985
41 +3 Brandon Whitt 534 -2925 6 0 0 0 $50,565
42 -2 Hank Parker, Jr 524 -2935 4 0 0 2 $51,015
43 -2 Johnny Chapman 513 -2946 6 0 0 0 $54,960
44 -2 Ken Weaver 482 -2977 5 0 0 0 $41,950
45 -- Mike Skinner 471 -2988 4 0 0 0 $46,860
46 -- Trevor Boys 471 -2988 6 0 0 0 $50,794
47 -- Roland Isaacs 466 -2993 7 0 0 0 $43,950
48 +6 Wayne Edwards 452 -3007 6 0 0 0 $45,510
49 -1 Charlie Bradberry 446 -3013 5 0 0 0 $33,600
50 -1 Michael Dokken 410 -3049 6 0 0 0 $59,135
51 -1 Aaron Daniel 391 -3068 4 0 0 0 $42,010
52 -1 Conrad Burr 391 -3068 4 0 0 0 $33,460
53 -1 Ryan McGlynn 365 -3094 5 0 0 0 $38,925
54 -1 Andy Petree 358 -3101 3 0 0 1 $24,605
55 -- Brandon Miller 348 -3111 3 0 0 1 $25,505
56 +6 Blake Mallory 346 -3113 4 0 0 0 $30,105
57 +8 Shane Sieg 339 -3120 3 0 0 0 $32,090
58 -2 Dana White 314 -3145 6 0 0 0 $42,965
59 -2 Ryan Hemphill 300 -3159 3 0 0 0 $23,045
60 -2 Mike Wallace 282 -3177 2 0 0 1 $29,040
61 +5 Jonathon Price 280 -3179 4 0 0 0 $37,645
62 -3 Brian Sockwell 276 -3183 3 0 0 0 $29,845
63 -3 Jimmy Spencer 266 -3193 2 1 1 1 $64,690
64 +11 Shawna Robinson 261 -3198 3 0 0 0 $24,115
65 -4 Loni Richardson 258 -3201 3 0 0 0 $30,940
66 -3 J C Stout 246 -3213 3 0 0 0 $20,515
67 -3 Jason Small 234 -3225 2 0 0 1 $20,665
68 -1 Darrell Waltrip 222 -3237 2 0 0 1 $14,865
69 -1 Johnny Sauter 222 -3237 2 0 0 1 $14,865
70 -1 Randy Renfrow 222 -3237 3 0 0 0 $29,320
71 -1 Tim Sauter 221 -3238 3 0 0 0 $22,495
72 -1 Brian Rose 212 -3247 2 0 0 0 $14,030
73 -1 Nathan Wulff 203 -3256 2 0 0 0 $13,670
74 +39 Tracy Hines 197 -3262 2 0 0 0 $15,720
75 -2 Stuart Kirby 194 -3265 2 0 0 0 $13,080
76 -2 Andy Ponstein 188 -3271 2 0 0 0 $12,805
77 -1 Robby Benton 185 -3274 3 0 0 0 $28,570
78 -1 Tyler Walker 182 -3277 2 0 0 0 $12,835
79 -1 Tony Stewart 180 -3279 1 1 1 1 $35,600
80 -1 Kelly Sutton 176 -3283 2 0 0 0 $15,030
81 -1 Donnie Neuenberger 176 -3283 2 0 0 0 $17,830
82 -1 Stephen Rhodes* 173 -3286 2 0 0 0 $15,130
83 -1 G J Mennen 158 -3301 2 0 0 0 $23,780
84 -1 Jack Sprague 155 -3304 1 0 1 1 $10,900
85 -1 Jeremy Mayfield 155 -3304 1 0 0 1 $11,925
86 -1 Ronnie Hornaday 149 -3310 2 0 0 0 $20,030
87 -1 Mark McFarland 127 -3332 1 0 0 0 $8,665
88 -1 Scott Lynch 127 -3332 1 0 0 0 $8,190
89 -1 Ed Berrier 124 -3335 1 0 0 0 $14,765
90 -1 Bryan Reffner 124 -3335 1 0 0 0 $6,365
91 -1 Randy LaJoie 124 -3335 1 0 0 0 $8,140
92 -1 Nick Woodward 121 -3338 1 0 0 0 $6,290
93 -1 Andy Hillenburg 118 -3341 1 0 0 0 $13,765
94 -1 Brad Teague 115 -3344 1 0 0 0 $9,465
95 -1 Clay Brown 112 -3347 1 0 0 0 $6,065
96 +30 Patrick Lawler 109 -3350 2 0 0 0 $19,175
97 -2 Doug Mahlik 103 -3356 1 0 0 0 $8,940
98 -2 Jeremy Thompson 100 -3359 1 0 0 0 $8,140
99 -2 Chase Montgomery 97 -3362 1 0 0 0 $5,815
100 -2 Jay Godley 97 -3362 1 0 0 0 $5,565
101 -2 Jerry Miller 94 -3365 1 0 0 0 $10,115
102 -2 John Borneman III 94 -3365 1 0 0 0 $9,815
103 -2 Ryan Hanson 94 -3365 1 0 0 0 $9,165
104 -2 Jay Sherston 91 -3368 1 0 0 0 $8,065
105 -2 Timothy Woods III* 88 -3371 2 0 0 0 $11,655
106 -2 Alex Mueller 85 -3374 1 0 0 0 $7,140
107 -2 Tommy Pistone 85 -3374 1 0 0 0 $5,390
108 -2 Geoffrey Bodine 82 -3377 1 0 0 0 $6,190
109 -2 Jarod Robie 82 -3377 1 0 0 0 $6,965
110 -2 Ron Polodna 82 -3377 1 0 0 0 $5,365
111 -2 Gilbert King 76 -3383 1 0 0 0 $5,315
112 -2 Teri MacDonald* 73 -3386 1 0 0 0 $6,890
113 -2 Gary Higgs 67 -3392 1 0 0 0 $4,690
114 -2 Jon Lemke 67 -3392 1 0 0 0 $7,975
115 -1 Craig Wood 67 -3392 1 0 0 0 $5,240
116 -1 Rusty Alton 64 -3395 1 0 0 0 $7,215
117 -1 Willie Green 64 -3395 1 0 0 0 $5,515
118 -1 Rick Bogart 61 -3398 1 0 0 0 $9,605
119 -1 Jerry Allec Jr. 61 -3398 1 0 0 0 $6,840
120 -1 Dennis Hannel 58 -3401 1 0 0 0 $4,515
121 -1 Rick Ware 55 -3404 1 0 0 0 $9,065
122 -1 Carl Long 55 -3404 1 0 0 0 $6,685
123 -1 Scotty Sands 55 -3404 1 0 0 0 $5,140
124 -1 Jason York 0 -3459 2 0 0 0 $13,180
125 -1 Steadman Marlin 0 -3459 1 0 0 0 $7,215
126 -1 Jason White 0 -3459 1 0 0 0 $9,415
127 -- Joe Varde 0 -3459 1 0 0 0 $5,815
 
It's only dots on a screen. How do I know what isn't to be taken at face value?

But I'm glad you posted the standings. Almost every truck in front of Bill Lester is either piloted by a very experienced proven winner OR is backed by some pretty big teams, or daddy's casino. :D

I mean dang, except for the Rouchketeer the only driver of note that his boss is in front of in points is Robert Pressley. And his boss is as experienced as any driver IN trucks.
 
Originally posted by 71Fan@Oct 17 2003, 06:26 PM

But I'm glad you posted the standings. Almost every truck in front of Bill Lester is either piloted by a very experienced proven winner OR is backed by some pretty big teams, or daddy's casino. :D

You're right. The rookie Chad Chaffin is backed by the same big team Lester is. Hamilton did lead the points for a while this year, before falling completely apart. I think it's a case of a driver who thought the championship was his before the season started, and became frustrated when he saw it wasn't quite so easy as he thought.
 
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