Breed MisIdentification PIT BULL

BobbyFord said:
There are breeds in there that are much more dangerous than a pitbull.
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Like which ones? I have been owned by many doggies, and THE OWNER OF THE DOG is much more responsible than the dog for it's behavior. My daughter is owned by a Rottie who is one of the sweetest doggies alive.
Just as in raising children, how you treat and raise them makes a world of difference. A dog is far less dangerous than many humans, and THEY DON'T CARRY GUNS!
 
Kat, one of the problems with dogs isn't just the owners, but the inbreeding that goes on. Pit Bulls, or what has become Pit Bulls, have instincts that are inborn and one of them is to not let go when it bites into something. Of course, this is a trait that those who pit dogs against one another like.

As a mailman, I am very intune with dogs and pretty much know how to read them. I know how to react in different situations and I've had some pretty scary things happen to me with dogs. I've been know to even chase a dog or two as well. People always say to watch out for those little bitty dogs as they can really do damage. I'm here to tell you that I'll take having my ankle bitten any day over having a larger dog go for my throat.

Dogs that really scare me are the shifty ones, ones that are sly and try to sneak up on you. Dogs that are mixed breed with a Shephard are probably the most vicious of all dogs and for many reasons. Chows are also a bad breed when mixed with other breeds. Dobbies used to be the breed that druggies used to guard their stash, but these days, it's the dreaded Pit Bull and of course, they want their guard to be as vicious as possible.

It's a combination of owner/trainer and breed that makes for a bad dog. And here's one very vicious dog...
 

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kat2220 said:
Like which ones? I have been owned by many doggies, and THE OWNER OF THE DOG is much more responsible than the dog for it's behavior. My daughter is owned by a Rottie who is one of the sweetest doggies alive.
Just as in raising children, how you treat and raise them makes a world of difference. A dog is far less dangerous than many humans, and THEY DON'T CARRY GUNS!
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I will dis agree. I was attacked by a dog once. the owners treated the dog very good but because of its breed it was in its blood. Plus i dont take this "owned by the dog" thing, i own the dog, it dont own me nor does it tell me what to do. You can raise a child very well but they can turn out bad to, you always hear of the good kids that shoot someone or something. Plus people kill people, guns dont. heck ppl have used pens, pincles, weed eaters, water hoses, coke cans, tires, ect ect to kill someone and you dont hear anything trying to ban them objects.

Im not for baning the pit bulls out, but they do not need to be around kids.

One of my buddys had a rot, the dog was sweet but i was still a little scared of it. because i never knew if it would snap or not.
 
Buckster, while I agree with much of your post, I still believe that a lot falls at the owner's doorstep (breeders as well). I believe that it's important to teach your pet who is the ALPHA animal, and not the other way around.
That vicious animal of yours is a SWEETHEART!

Lappy, one important thing to understand is that IF you demonstrate fear, the animal senses it and is more likely to charge.

I STILL WILL NEVER TRUST A PIT BULL!
 
kat2220 said:
Like which ones? I have been owned by many doggies, and THE OWNER OF THE DOG is much more responsible than the dog for it's behavior. My daughter is owned by a Rottie who is one of the sweetest doggies alive.
Just as in raising children, how you treat and raise them makes a world of difference. A dog is far less dangerous than many humans, and THEY DON'T CARRY GUNS!
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Like the Argentino Dogo, Fila Brasiliero, etc.
I go to mandated dog classes once a year put on by Bulli-Ray. (www.bulliray.com). I have had some training dealing with aggressive dogs.
Also look at www.dogbreedinfo.com, a lot of good info about these and most breeds.
 
We should all have a better grasp of just what has happened over the years to dog breeds.
Dog breeds have been developed to do certain things. Some dogs are bred to sit on a lap and be petted.. Some are bred to retrieve. Some are bred to stand still and POINT to certain game. We even have some that will nip at the heels of farm animals to drive them home.
Many of the above animals make decent yard-home pets. However the dogs that have been bred to protect, attack and KILL are the ones that injure most humans. As with the dogs above the trait is bred into the dog.
At times in his life all dogs regress into what their blood is telling them. A pointer will point at seemingly silly toads or mice. A retriever will retrieve rocks or sticks. A heeler will nip at the heels of chickens, ducks, other dogs or even people.
Last but by far not least the attack-kill dogs. When they revert to their breeding maiming and death frequently occur. Keeping one of these breeds is the most unwise decision I can think of.
There are so many breeds to choose from that we should all THINK before offering our children and friends up as dog chow.
Betsy
 
I agree with Besty 100%!

Nothing peeves me more than people who get "Designer Dogs."

You see people in apartments owning Huskies wondering why they tear up the place. B/c Huskies are BRED to be active ALL day, in the cold. Putting them in a warm house while you're at work so they can 'relax on the couch' is literally torture for them.

Same thing with other dogs...I'll get a boxer/rottie so I Look tough. I'll get an Irish Wolf-hound so I look sophisticated, I'll get a daschund ....well I don't know why anyone would get a daschund .... :)

It's like people who buy a Jeep Wrangler for a high-milage commuter car, or a Dodge Viper to get groceries...

Bottom line:
Don't get a dog to make up for your own shortcomings....

(That reminds me of a joke about a lion in pit, a mouse in a corvette, and an elephant...) :D
 
vanzetti said:
I agree with Besty 100%!
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1st time that has really ever happaned.



vanzetti said:
Same thing with other dogs...I'll get a boxer/rottie so I Look tough. I'll get an Irish Wolf-hound so I look sophisticated, I'll get a daschund ....well I don't know why anyone would get a daschund .... :)
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Daschunds are really cool dogs!! I love em~ :D
 
kat2220 said:
My daughter is owned by a Rottie who is one of the sweetest doggies alive.
Just as in raising children, how you treat and raise them makes a world of difference. A dog is far less dangerous than many humans, and THEY DON'T CARRY GUNS!
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Sorry I think rotties and pitts are time bombs waiting to go off. All owners of thoes breeds say they are the sweetest dog........until the dreadad attack happens.

;) ;) ;) Oh I almost forgot http://www.macalester.edu/weekly/110802/arts1.html ;) ;) ;)
 
I work for the largest municipally owned utility in the nation. Our people enter thousands of residential properties each and every day.
The dog credited with the most bite incidences is the Dalmation.
Not the Pitt. Not the Rottweiler. Not the Doberman.
 
...But I'll take a bite from a Dalmation over a Doberman anyday of the week.

It's not the just the bite numbers --then yip-yips would be outlawed-- it's the damage and type of attack that matters...

My rule is, don't own a dog you would lose a fight with. (or even come close)
 
vanzetti said:
...But I'll take a bite from a Dalmation over a Doberman anyday of the week.

It's not the just the bite numbers --then yip-yips would be outlawed-- it's the damage and type of attack that matters...

My rule is, don't own a dog you would lose a fight with. (or even come close)
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gotta agree with you on this.
 
yea, we have a purebreed doberman and the only thing he's attacked was the neighbor dogs (apparently they don't set boundaries using fences like us humans do)

plus he lives with 4 cats so he knows to be gentle. The first thing visitors think when they come here is that we have an aggresive dog. But when they get out of their car, they find out hes just the opposite. We've only had one human complaint. When we went on vacation, we sent him to the the kennel for a week, and when we went to pick him up, the operator said "Your dog is way too damn strong!" Apparently during a walk, he started going after a rabbit or something and almost broke the man's arm trying to chase it. (at the time he was actually able to pull me around during tug of war)

even the vet says that he's the most muscly dog he's ever seen. We've "drag raced" him along our fence, and he can keep up with the truck up til bout 40 MPH.
And don't ask what happened once when he was real young and he body blocked me. :eek:

of course, he has 13 acres to play on..thats why he's so muscly..he has ALOT of room to run around on
 
vanzetti said:
...But I'll take a bite from a Dalmation over a Doberman anyday of the week.

It's not the just the bite numbers --then yip-yips would be outlawed-- it's the damage and type of attack that matters...

My rule is, don't own a dog you would lose a fight with. (or even come close)
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Dobermans and Dalmations have very similar bite patterns. Long skinny bite profiles and similar jaw pressures. They produce more of a tearing type wound as opposed to the crushing type bite of the more powerful jaws of the Pitbull or Rottweiler.
 
BobbyFord said:
Dobermans and Dalmations have very similar bite patterns. Long skinny bite profiles and similar jaw pressures. They produce more of a tearing type wound as opposed to the crushing type bite of the more powerful jaws of the Pitbull or Rottweiler.
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just ask my arm ;)
 
my neighbors that just moved out had two dobies...one of them was older and not very full of life, but the younger one was my special little buddy, when i'd come outside, he'd put his feet up on the fence, I'd give him a treat and he'd nuzzle my arm while I talked sweet to him.
I don't know for sure, but I've heard that Dalmations are one of the worst kinds of dogs to train and trust...which is why when Disney puts out another movie, the humane societies get nervous because that means there's an upswing in Dalmation purchases, thus an upswing in abandoned dalmations.
 
I have been fortunate to own 2 dobermans in my lifetime. The 1st was VERY muscular, could leap tall buildings (sorta), was trained to silent commands, and was one of the smartest dogs I've ever had the pleasure to meet. He was my companion during "The Boston Strangler" days in said city. One day, after walking him, coming up the stairs to our apartment, he put himself between me and the door, then started barking. He wasn't a barker unless something was terribly wrong, so I opened the apartment door (kind of expecting to find my roomate in a death struggle with DeSalvo).
Instead, I smelled natural gas, and Kim (the doberman) ran right to the kitchen! I had left a window open a bit, and apparantly the pilot light had been extinguisged, filling that apartment with that gas smell.
Another time, Kim was sitting with myself and an old classmate. The classmate tried to put a major move on me, and I told him "NO". Kim growled, and I told said classmate to heed the warning! He didn't and made another move on me! (DUMB ****)
Kim attacked him, but only on the arm, not the throat or face. Needless to say, the guy left. I gave Kim treats and hugs.
My 2nd Doberman was a family member before my daughter was born, and she absolutely adored my daughter. Judi (my daughter) could pull her ears, grab her tongue and/or tail, and Dawn would NEVER complain. It takes a loving owner to know their pet, plain and simple.

As to the Dalmation, many are deaf and startle easily, therefore kicking in an automatic defense and survival instinct.

Quite frankly, I believe that the owner of the pet has the responsibilty to love, teach, train, and care for the animal.
 
Kat, your story is cute and funny, but I am not one who will condone even that sort of reaction from a pet dog. Let's remember, this is supposed to be a pet and not a guard dog. If the animal is a guard dog, there are certain rules one must obey to protect even the most innocent of mistakes. You know that K-9 dogs are very well trained, but one thing that every K-9 cop will tell anyone who comes in contact with his dog that the dog is trained to protect on command, but it goes without saying that an attack on the "master" is a command to defend. Whether or not you agree with it, your "friend" would have had a good case against you had he chosen to take it that far. Even if you put up signs around your yard to keep out because of a dog, anyone who climbs that fence and is attacked by the dog can sue and in most cases, will win.
 
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