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Frustration evident after Busch-Harvick collision
By David Newton, NASCAR.COM
March 20, 2006
05:41 PM EST (22:41 GMT)


HAMPTON, Ga. -- Kurt Busch knew his day basically was done when he was squeezed into the wall following the fourth caution of Monday's Nextel Cup race at Atlanta Motor Speedway.

He hopes his season isn't.

The 37th-place finish left the 2004 champion 27th in points with his new team, Penske Racing South. Only one driver, Matt Kenseth last season, has come from outside the top 25 after four races to make the Championship Chase.

Kenseth was 31st a year ago before rallying to make the 10-car championship run.

"We're a little frustrated because we think we've got a good car and a good driver,'' Penske Racing president Don Miller said. "One event right after another. I know Kurt is terribly frustrated.

"But I've been doing this for 35 years. It's the same old thing. It comes in cycles. If you don't have a little bit of patience you will drive yourself crazy.''

Patience wasn't on Busch's mind after Kevin Harvick drove him into the wall after a restart on Lap 125. He went into a profanity-laced tirade over his car radio that Miller said had as much to do with frustration from the season as it did with Harvick.

"He did lose it,'' Miller said of Busch, who was running third when hit by Harvick's car that was a lap down. "But if there's not a competitive spirit, you'll never win. He is a highly competitive guy. This all seems unnecessary to him.''

The frustration landed on Harvick, who later relayed to Busch through his spotter that he was forced into Busch by another car. By then Busch had gone through enough words to give his radio broadcast an "R'' rating.

"[Expletive] you Harvick,'' Busch yelled on his radio. "Take your provisional. You're [expletive] 35th in points. [Expletive] you Harvick!''

Harvick, apparently concerned about retaliation, fired back with a comment about the recent surgery Busch had to pin back his ears.

"If he takes a swipe at me it'll be more than his ears that hurt,'' Harvick said.

Harvick has reason to be frustrated as well. He's in the last year of his contract with Richard Childress Racing and negotiations for an extension aren't going well.

He's also 23rd in points after finishing 39th, one spot behind Bill Lester, who became the first black driver to compete in NASCAR's top series in 20 years.

Only two drivers, Kenseth and Jeremy Mayfield, have rallied to make the Chase outside the top 20 after four races in the two-year tenure of the format. Mayfield was 21st this time a year ago.

Busch nor Harvick hung around to talk about their day. They were on their way home by the time Lester finished discussing his historic ride around the 1.5-mile track.

"We might be down in points, but we'll keep digging and come back,'' said Busch's crew chief, Roy McCauley. "All you can do is put yourself in position.

"We certainly have a lot of opportunities to make it better.''

Greg Biffle and Carl Edwards, Roush Racing teammates who tied for second in the points race a year ago, also are frustrated. Biffle ran out of gas to finish 16th after leading a race-high 128 laps.

It was similar to his experience at California, where he blew an engine after leading a race-high 168 laps. He is 21st in points.

Edwards, the winner of both Atlanta races last season, is 30th in points after finishing 40th thanks to a lap 44 run-in with Dave Blaney on pit road.

Edwards, who was running in top 10, suffered severe damage to the right front end of his car that got only worse after he blew a tire about 20 laps later.

"We're in a huge hole,'' Edwards said. "We had the fastest car on the race track by about a third of a second. I'd say the worst we were going to finish was second. That's the best car I've had here. Too bad we didn't get to race.

"That's just such a stupid way to ruin our great weekend. It's frustrating, but our team will do our best and reality is what it is.''



The way I saw it, Stremme pushed Harvick up into Kurt. I would have liked to have been at Atlanta with my headset tuned in to the 2 and the 29 :)
 
penske made a strategically bad decision to not use the Challenger at season's beginning. After texas they will now have to switch to Challenger if they want support from Dodge. They are currently in a hole and switching to the Challenger after texas will make it even more difficult. It would not surprise me to see the Penske teams way down the points ladder this year.
 
Funny stuff. I think we all know Kurt will always be Kurt no matter how much of a face he puts on TV to try and clean up his a-hole attitude.
 
When did he get his ears pinned? I missed reading about that on here...:)
 
Neither one of those "men" could beat there way out of a wet paper sack. They've both had chances to prove otherwise and have cowered when called on it.....
 
muggle not said:
penske made a strategically bad decision to not use the Challenger at season's beginning. After texas they will now have to switch to Challenger if they want support from Dodge. They are currently in a hole and switching to the Challenger after texas will make it even more difficult. It would not surprise me to see the Penske teams way down the points ladder this year.


Challenger?
 
hmmmmmmmmm

Funny stuff. I think we all know Kurt will always be Kurt no matter how much of a face he puts on TV to try and clean up his a-hole attitude

Now why does he have an "attitude"?

Because he showed emotion after being knocked into the wall while running third by a car a lap down?

He didn't have a replay to watch. So I guess he is suppose to have no reaction until a PR person tells him what to say.

Oh wait, that would make him a NASCAR puppet.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Speaking of Challenger's this does look kind of what happened to Kurt...

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God, that's tacky. Someone needs to do something... :eek:
 
Maybe Kurt needs to look at the replay. The 40 car was on the bottom, pushed up into Harvick, who pushed into Kurt.

Kevin and Kurt get damaged cars --- Stremme kept on going.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
Maybe Kurt needs to look at the replay. The 40 car was on the bottom, pushed up into Harvick, who pushed into Kurt.

Kevin and Kurt get damaged cars --- Stremme kept on going.

no no no no, the replay clearly shows that harvik put his nose where it did not belong. He should have lifted or been patient. Just like everyone said about Kyle in the Mexico race. I could not believe he made that 3 wide :rolleyes: well he didn't...but he tried :D
 
Busch: Circumstances dictated frustration
By David Newton, NASCAR.COM
March 21, 2006
03:19 PM EST (20:19 GMT)


CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Kurt Busch isn't in a panic over being 27th in points and he isn't mad at Kevin Harvick.

Busch said on Tuesday he was more upset about being put into the wall by two lapped cars during Monday's race at Atlanta Motor Speedway than he was with Harvick.

The 2004 champion was in third place when the lapped cars of Harvick and David Stremme sandwiched him into the wall, sending him to a 37th-place finish and a deeper hole in the points.

He took out his frustration with a profanity-laced tirade directed at Harvick and left the track without speaking to reporters.

"It was frustrating at the time,'' Busch said. "Just to clear the air, I have no problem with Kevin Harvick or when Stremme made that mistake. I just wish lapped down cars would pay respect for the lead lap cars.

"No hard feelings toward anybody. I wish I had a chance to run with [winner Kasey] Kahne and [runner-up] Mark Martin to win that race, but we just came up short on that.''

Busch added there is plenty of time to make the Championship Chase even though only two drivers have made the playoffs after being outside the top 20 after four races.

"The Chase is only two years old, so it's hard to draw parallels to the past,'' Busch said. "We are by no means in a panic.''

Busch reminded that he could have finished in the top 10 at Daytona and Atlanta had he not been caught up in accidents.

He also reminded that he is heading to Bristol Motor Speedway, where he's won four of the past eight races and his No. 2 car won seven times with Rusty Wallace.

"The crew looked at the schedule and put a circle around Bristol,'' Busch said. "We're so excited about going to Bristol. This is definitely the focal point of the start of the season for us.''
 
bristol is going to be an important race for Kurt Busch, Newman, and Edwards. A DNF or a very low finish will make it very difficult for them to overcome in the chase.
 
I find that highly amuzing. I suppose its because I am a Harvick fan.
 
Yes cutting a guy up in front of a room full of media people is really cool. Especially when the other guy isn't there to protect himself. I had the feeling the media people just kept laughing so he would say more. Giving him just enough rope to hang himself.
I wonder if it was Newman or Stewart, would Harvick's mouth be as big.

I used to like Harvick until his mouth started performing better than his driving.
 
This is funny...Kevin Harvick is a very overrated driver and happens to be one of the biggest A-holes on the circuit.....he only wished he was 1/2 as good as he thinks he is

oh ya that Kurt Bush.....2004 Nextel Cup Champ (Harvick wishes he was that good)
 
i hope kurt busch knocks that ****y prick 5 wins in 5 seasons harvick out cold.
 
no its not.....talking crap like that reminds me of elementry school...kevin was acting like an 8 year old.....i agree that its nice to see some rivaly and id like to see some people get the crap knocked out of them...that is part of the sport.....now sitting behind a microphone and talking crap like kevin did...(the way he did it was very inmature) is out of bounds.

if i was Richard Childeress and Goodwrench id be embarrased.
 
Well, before you were born, there was this guy who is now in the booth, DW that did much the same thing. You are just the product of the new generation of race fans. Still, it's great to have you along for the ride. :beerbang:
 
Good ol' DW certainly earned his nick of Jaws. He'd get the drivers so mad between races that they would concentrate more on him than the racing. It was a good tactic...
 
buckaroo said:
Well, before you were born, there was this guy who is now in the booth, DW that did much the same thing. You are just the product of the new generation of race fans. Still, it's great to have you along for the ride. :beerbang:

i may be young if you wanna call 26 young...but ive been a fan for 20 years...
 
I didn't infer that you were young, but that is relative to who's calling who what. I'm more than twice your age sir and I've been a fan of this sport longer than you have been. To most people, history is what they have experienced themselves in their life. You should read some of the great books that tell of the sport and the charactors who were the first guys to race. Curtis Turner, who will always be known as a champion driver, was one hell raiser, drinking and doing what he wanted, on and off the track. Lee Petty wouldn't think twice about putting a competitor into the wall to beat him. Of course, he knew that what went around, came around. The sport will always have charactors that people will either love or hate.
 
In a way I sure do miss those "Good Old Days" when fisticuffs weren't anything unusual, beatin and bangin was the norm, lighting a cigar or cigarette while in the car on the track was no problem, and the media wasn't always in your face.
Back in the late '50s and early '60s at local tracks in New England was some of the very best racing I've seen in my whole life!
IF,and no disrespect intended, one didn't follow racing back then (lot's weren't born then), y'all missed out on the foundation and history of modern day NASCAR.
 
This Buds For Me said:
i may be young if you wanna call 26 young...but ive been a fan for 20 years...


GEEZE This Buds For Me, you been a fan since you were six, huh ???

Which brings to mind an interesting question, how much does anyone really remember from the time they were six ?? How many statistics, why did they pick thier favorite driver(s), recollection of memorable events or other things are retained relating to racing. It is easy to read books on any subject, find information on-line and relate stories from the past. But at or from what age or time in life does a persons longevity with the sport really have meaning ???

When it comes to NASCAR, it is always interesting to listen to the people who have been around awhile and speak with knowledge and offer valuable information. People such as Buckeroo, TRL and boB, who have been around this sport almost since it was invented, and have forgotten more than most of the fans.
 
Whizzer said:
GEEZE This Buds For Me, you been a fan since you were six, huh ???

Which brings to mind an interesting question, how much does anyone really remember from the time they were six ?? How many statistics, why did they pick thier favorite driver(s), recollection of memorable events or other things are retained relating to racing. It is easy to read books on any subject, find information on-line and relate stories from the past. But at or from what age or time in life does a persons longevity with the sport really have meaning ???

Or is this just another one of lifes imponderables ???
Good question there Whiz. Not to belabor the point, but using this logic, I've been a fan of racing since I was four or five. At that time, my father co-owned a car back in Oklahoma and about all I can remember is going out to see the Dare Devils. :)
 
buckaroo said:
I didn't infer that you were young, but that is relative to who's calling who what. I'm more than twice your age sir and I've been a fan of this sport longer than you have been. To most people, history is what they have experienced themselves in their life. You should read some of the great books that tell of the sport and the charactors who were the first guys to race. Curtis Turner, who will always be known as a champion driver, was one hell raiser, drinking and doing what he wanted, on and off the track. Lee Petty wouldn't think twice about putting a competitor into the wall to beat him. Of course, he knew that what went around, came around. The sport will always have charactors that people will either love or hate.


hey man...i know about a lot of this stuff.....im not just your average race fan...what i have a problem with is harvick acting like an 8 year old instead of acting like a man...if he's got a problem with Kurt Busch, then settle it man to man instead of name calling.....he's sitting behind a microphone in front of a room full of people talking crap instead of saying it to busch's face....he's a coward plan and simple.

not a busch fan at all.....trust me on that...but thought it was funny to see harvick finish 2nd to both of the busch boys this weekend.

speakin of settling things like men...how about that wimp jeff gordon going after keneseth with his helmet still on ha.
 
Whizzer said:
GEEZE This Buds For Me, you been a fan since you were six, huh ???

Which brings to mind an interesting question, how much does anyone really remember from the time they were six ?? How many statistics, why did they pick thier favorite driver(s), recollection of memorable events or other things are retained relating to racing. It is easy to read books on any subject, find information on-line and relate stories from the past. But at or from what age or time in life does a persons longevity with the sport really have meaning ???

When it comes to NASCAR, it is always interesting to listen to the people who have been around awhile and speak with knowledge and offer valuable information. People such as Buckeroo, TRL and boB, who have been around this sport almost since it was invented, and have forgotten more than most of the fans.


i remember being pissed off at my parents when i was about six or 7 for not letting me go to North Wilkesboro with them...i didnt get to go to a real race until i was in cup scouts when we used to get into the bush races at charlotte for free....funny thing is, at the time it was when Rob Moroso was winning in the bush series and everyone was talking about how young this guy was...i was like...he's not really that young..i think he's old...haha....i still have the Top Gun 3 time winston cup championship hat around my house.
 
Hey kat those old days around Stafford and Thompson speedways in the 60s and 70s were some good stuff....check out www.vintagemodifieds.com for all the pics and stories from that era.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Hey kat those old days around Stafford and Thompson speedways in the 60s and 70s were some good stuff....check out www.vintagemodifieds.com for all the pics and stories from that era.

I even went to Norwood, Thompson, Seekonk, LimeRock, etc!
Remember Slater in the black 8? HE RULED at Norwood!
 
Mopardh9 said:
Hey kat those old days around Stafford and Thompson speedways in the 60s and 70s were some good stuff....check out www.vintagemodifieds.com for all the pics and stories from that era.
Not to cut into this with you and Kat, but did you notice that some of your boys invaded the south this past weekend with Christopher winning the first southern modified race with Hossfield coming in second? I tell you, our boys just don't stand a chance with your boys. Oh, I didn't go and am sorry that I missed the race. It was cold though. :eek:
 
Nowadays it doesn't matter where the driver is born, raised or races. I still love Beau & Luke Duke! :D
 
buckaroo said:
Good question there Whiz. Not to belabor the point, but using this logic, I've been a fan of racing since I was four or five. At that time, my father co-owned a car back in Oklahoma and about all I can remember is going out to see the Dare Devils. :)
You probably aren't as old as me but do you remember Joie Chitwood. :)
 
muggle not said:
You probably aren't as old as me but do you remember Joie Chitwood. :)
Joie and his boys were the Dare Devils I was talking about. Yes, I remember them quite well and that was early 50's. I can still see one of the guys driving on two wheels. Another jumping ramps etc. I remember very little about the actual racing. As a snot nosed kid, I was interested in the exhibitions.
 
The good old boys are having there first race at Thompson April 8, hope the weather holds up going to take my wife to see her first dose of Northeast Mods, she has only seen the western version out in CO. I haven't been to a race at Thompson since 1986, it has been repaved a few years ago and hear it is quite a facility now, can't wait just hope it doesn't snow or something!
 
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