Car of Tommarrow at Dega?

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Since they are running the CoT at Dega, are they still going to run restricter plates?
 
Yes. The holes will be a little larger tho. Also, the wing will be slightly altered.
 
OK, so how do you think COT will do at Dega?

Will it make plate racing better? Worse?
Why?
 
Only time will tell.

I was hoping the COT would mark the end of plate racing. But it is not. The only thing that will end plate racing is going to a smaller engine that produces around 600 HP.
 
racerx11 said:
Since they are running the CoT at Dega, are they still going to run restricter plates?
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The holes will be opened enough to allow 80 more horsepower to the cars. Since these things are BRICKS and will NOT be able to cut through the air nearly as well as the old standard car. I hate this new COT car but honestly, I think they'll run OK at Dega. I think drafting with these cars will be easier than with the standard car because this COT car is more like a Craftsman truck build and dimension wise & the trucks ran well here last year so I see the same for the COT. Still though we won't know for sure till the race is actualy on. We'll see. I have said many times before that I wished they would continue to use the standard car at the plate tracks but this is how things are now, just like with Toyota coming into the series this year. Times are changing. They announced that the Busch Series will also be going to a COT car by maybe 09. That'll leave me with only being able to watch the trucks cause I get sickly watching the BRICK race...
 
I know that ESPN goes on and on about it but I think the way the nose and tail meet up should make things interesting.
 
Restrictor Plate King! said:
The holes will be opened enough to allow 80 more horsepower to the cars. Since these things are BRICKS and will NOT be able to cut through the air nearly as well as the old standard car. I hate this new COT car but honestly, I think they'll run OK at Dega. I think drafting with these cars will be easier than with the standard car because this COT car is more like a Craftsman truck build and dimension wise & the trucks ran well here last year so I see the same for the COT. Still though we won't know for sure till the race is actualy on. We'll see. I have said many times before that I wished they would continue to use the standard car at the plate tracks but this is how things are now, just like with Toyota coming into the series this year. Times are changing. They announced that the Busch Series will also be going to a COT car by maybe 09. That'll leave me with only being able to watch the trucks cause I get sickly watching the BRICK race...
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The COT is "like" the Truck in build and dimension.
The Truck gave you great racing.
The COT makes you sick watching them race.
So you're saying C=T, T=Great, C=0.
I'm afraid I'm not following your logic... :confused:
 
barelypure said:
The COT is "like" the Truck in build and dimension.
The Truck gave you great racing.
The COT makes you sick watching them race.
So you're saying C=T, T=Great, C=0.
I'm afraid I'm not following your logic... :confused:
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I like watching the trucks, they're trucks, they're supposed to be boxy the way they are. The lower lip on the front of the trucks fits their pickup truck style look & they still have regular spoilers in the rear. The COT car on the other hand looks totally bogus, it's a car, a NASCAR racecar. I compare the look of the standard r-plate car to the COT car. The standard r-plate car has a smooth low look to it. You know the way the front bumper is flush straight to the ground & the body wraps around from the sides all the way back to the spoiler. The COT car has that nasty monstrous mouth & that huge ugly rear spoiler, reminds me of a rice burner that had it's front ground effect smashed off. Absolutely disgusting i'm sorry but thats how I feel about it.
 
I guarantee if these were women in a nightclub, you would pick the standard car over that monstrossity...



 
barelypure said:
The COT is "like" the Truck in build and dimension.
The Truck gave you great racing.
The COT makes you sick watching them race.
So you're saying C=T, T=Great, C=0.
I'm afraid I'm not following your logic... :confused:
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LMAO :D :D :D
 
You know, it's funny... I hardly notice the differance anymore DURING the race.

Sure, post sided by sides and the old cars look sleeker, but zipping by I just don't see it.

If all you want is pretty racecars, then I'd find different series like F1 or LeMans. I don't think NASCAR has EVER led that category.
 
The problem with the last few COT races is Goodyear has used a hard tire. It takes away from the racing.
 
MRM said:
The problem with the last few COT races is Goodyear has used a hard tire. It takes away from the racing.
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I agree completely. The tires can help make the COT a very good race.

As to the bar scene, so you walk into the bar and you see a girl built like a truck and you immediately fall in love but she's already on the arm of another guy. So you turn to her almost identical twin, the COT, and you find her uglier than sin. I'm to believe that you'd pass up a chance to get lucky with one because of the other. Have another drink buddy. Pretty soon the lines will begin to blur anyways.
 
barelypure said:
As to the bar scene, so you walk into the bar and you see a girl built like a truck and you immediately fall in love but she's already on the arm of another guy. So you turn to her almost identical twin, the COT, and you find her uglier than sin. I'm to believe that you'd pass up a chance to get lucky with one because of the other. Have another drink buddy. Pretty soon the lines will begin to blur anyways.
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Genius! :cheers:
 
I like the COT now. Like vanzetti said, it's the same car whizzing by the camera basically. And the teams are using the side winglets for advertising purposes now so you can't really tell that it's there, same with the color matching splitters. Now granted i'm a ALMS/LMP/Rolex fan too, it's a little easier for me to accept the CoT.
 
I agree with Restrictor in that the COT is a "Brick". A brick of ****. I don't give a damn how they look. I think they actually look kind of cool but, to me, the racing has sucked. I was impressed at the road courses and Bristol but thats it. They don't seem to be as loose. I'm getting used to it but the degga race is what is going to sell me or not.

I also thought that it was supposed to give the struggling teams more of a chance but it seems like the same teams are still doing well and the lesser teams are in the same place they were. But in the end if the car is safer, like NASCAR says, then I'm all for it.
 
I agree with Sledge, I am waiting for Dega before I make a concrete decision. It really doesn't matter in the scheme of things because this is what we will be watching one way or another.
I agree the softer tires make for better racing too :)
 
sledge said:
I also thought that it was supposed to give the struggling teams more of a chance but it seems like the same teams are still doing well and the lesser teams are in the same place they were. But in the end if the car is safer, like NASCAR says, then I'm all for it.
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I think the smaller teams will do better. Maybe not on the track in the terms of results on a consistent basis. But, this move will save them millions of dollars allowing them to still put a product on the track. They no longer will have to have an RP car, a road course car, a short track car, a mile car, a mile and a half car, a 2 mile car, etc., up to 18 or more cars to compete in 36 races. Now they can get by with fewer than 10.
And, as to the results sometimes its not the car but the driver. Haven't we seen over the years as some drivers move around that suddenly a car will come to life or drop off the cliff depending on who's behind the wheel. IOW, if it had been Stewart rather than Riggs going to Haas do you really think Haas remains at the back.
Also, I wouldn't put all my eggs in the 'Dega basket. Next year may be a better indication of how the racing will be. This is the driver's 1st time and I'm expecting many of them to be overly cautious, except for KyleB, so the racing may not be as good. But, for me, watching 43 cars tightly packed running around the track isn't that good anyways.
 
First time for mandated gear...
Pretty soon it'll just be an IROC race.

Talladega COT rules: Sunday’s UAW-Ford 500 at Talladega Superspeedway marks the big track debut of the Car of Tomorrow, the first time it’s run on a superspeedway. The COT is taller and has more drag than the old-style spoiler car, which means NASCAR car run a larger restrictor-plate this weekend. Teams will begin the weekend using a 31/32-inch restrictor plate – the same size they tested with last month. They ran 7/8 (28/32) inch plates the last time they raced at Talladega in May. The bigger plate is expected to add 75-80 horsepower, NASCAR said. Should the cars prove too fast during practice, NASCAR has the option of installing smaller plates for the race. NASCAR also has mandated a minimum rear wing angle of 10 degrees. NASCAR will supply the wings at the track, as it has done in all previous COT races. NASCAR also will issue the teams end plates at the track, which has not been done before. Other changes include a taller wicker on the rear wing (one inch compared with 3/16 inch in the past), which will help add drag to the car. And for the first time, there will be a mandated gear rule.(SPEEDtv.com)(10-4-2007)
 
I thought NASCAR has had a gear rule for a couple of years now.
 
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