Co-Winners of the ROTY

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Apparently there has been some talk around of awarding both Ryan and Jimmie ROTY.

While I would tweak the ROTY points system just a tad if it were within my power, that is not the issue here. With the points system has we have it now as a given, I can't favor the co-winner approach. The system is and was the same for both so however it comes out, that is how it should stay.

One caveat, the panel should not make any decision of points awards that changes the outcome this year.
 
Kind of late to be changing how ROTY is awarded for the current year. Then again...NASCAR does make up the rules as it goes along :eek:
 
Why? Isn't it a competition? Best man wins and all that?

Guess some people are worried that widdle Jimmie won't get it. Boo freakin' hoo. Both have had great seasons, one should win, the other won't. Simple really.

Reminds me of all the crying when Kenseth beat Junior out.
 
I'll admit that I was disappointed when Matt won ROTY over Junior. However, I realize that Matt was more consistant through the whole season.

I don't want to see co-winners. One wins, one doesn't.
 
I think Newman will win it. Then again, I also think he'll pass Jimmie in the driver points as well :)

Then again, I don't really care all that much, its a little side award like best supporting actor. :p
 
I don't see why NASCAR shouldn't give them both Rookie of the Year. They have both been very consitent all year long with Johnson still being a title contender and Newman also in the top 5 in points.
 
I don't want to see co- champions!! They Both have done very well. Both in the top 5 in points. Jimmie 3 wins Ryan 1 win. Jimmie 3rd in points still has a (small)shot at the championship.

Beign fast does not count if you can't bring the car home each week. Ryans had 4 or 5 blown motors and crashed a couple times. Jimmie had 2 or 3 blown motors and has crashed mostly on fridays.

IMO Jimmie Johnson should be the ROTY champion, Unless Ryan wins the next 2 out of 3 races and passes jimmie in points then Ryan should win it.
 
Originally posted by nascarwoman
Like Ciggie said, best man wins. I say give it to the guy who finishes highest in points.
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Well that seems kinda to be the sticking point for some. It is highly conceivable that the one who finishes highest in the Winston Cup points standings will not finish highest in the ROTY points standings.

Without looking for it specifically, I don't think that has happened before. First time for everything I suppose.
 
Whoever has more points wins. I'd say that only if they are tied in points that they have co-winners.
 
Da Rulz is Da Rulz.

Changing Da Rulz to manufacture an ending is nothing new to na$car. It would simply be another shovel full of dirt on the coffin of a once great series.

Somehow I think the formation of an alternate series to nascar is getting closer and closer.
 
Originally posted by HardScrabble
Well that seems kinda to be the sticking point for some. It is highly conceivable that the one who finishes highest in the Winston Cup points standings will not finish highest in the ROTY points standings.

Without looking for it specifically, I don't think that has happened before. First time for everything I suppose.
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It wouldn't be the first time, HS, it would be the 2nd time. In 1979, Dale Earnhardt won the Rookie of the Year Award, but fellow rookie Joe Milikan finished 6th in the points to Earnhardt's 7th. Points were 4014-3749, to be exact. It should be noted that Earnhardt missed 4 races that year due to broken collarbones from a Pocono wreck.

this info courtesy of http://www.motorsportsalmanac.com
 
Well if they do that,Its a slap to the guy who won it by the rules that were set in the begining.But,the sponsers would win,and we know thats the key element that the leaders,and there check books want.;)
 
Does ROTY stand for Rookie of the Year? Or is it RookieS of the year? One winner or more than one winner? Are we going to worry about self esteem here like so many other "competitions" in our new society?

Guess which side of the fence I fall on.:)
 
According to nascar.com, Ryan leads the ROTY points by 20, while trailing Jimmie in driver points by 53.
 
Its a money award more than anything.Isn't it?Give it to Jamie,he is shining like a diamond in a goats arse right now.:D
 
Originally posted by pbunch
Its a money award more than anything.Isn't it?Give it to Jamie,he is shining like a diamond in a goats arse right now.:D
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But he's trailing Ryan by 20 points!:)
 
Co-winners?? NOOOOOOOOOO

Let the chips fall where they may, and so far in the ROTY books it's Ryan..............but again we still have 3 races to go:)
 
I'm trying pb.........you know me, I'll argue with a soup sandwich!!:)
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
I'm trying pb.........you know me, I'll argue with a soup sandwich!!:)
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I used to ask for a soup sandwich for a holiday gift and one year I got one! Bread wrapped around a can of Campbells Tomato Soup :D

I also asked for a 10lb box of $, got that too, all pennies:p
 
Where the hell are those ribs?Lets fire up the grill.:p I am setting with a room full of crazy women.My wife,and sister,and my niece.I think they have found the wine.:rolleyes: :)
 
Ribs are in the oven........didn't have time to do my normal rib prep stuff. But did manage to marinade them for about an hour in some homemade sauce. Half bottle of mesquite liquid smoke, about 1/4 cup vinegar, couple tablespoons of vegetable oil, some Creole seasoning, chili powder, garlic powder, a pretty good bunch of black pepper, and some dried parsley flakes. Will put some store bought BBQ on when almost done. Tonight was a look in the freezer and figure something out as we go night!:)



Hmmmmm.........thread drift?;)
 
Originally posted by pbunch
Where the hell are those ribs?Lets fire up the grill.:p I am setting with a room full of crazy women.My wife,and sister,and my niece.I think they have found the wine.:rolleyes: :)
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I ate the ribs :p along with my soup sandwich:D

pb, you know WOMEN RULE
 
Kat,You sound as bored as the rest of us,I just got a call,A friend of mine is bringing the acoustic over,should be a party in the making. :)
 
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