creating demand....

[klemmabyna]

all the discussion about taking away seats at racetracks to create demand....

a couple of thoughts: most of those seats were added in the early 90's when the leap in interest began. throw in the fact that in many cities the local hospitality industry decided to price gouge out of town visitors beyond what the average race fan could afford, and along with racing that could never match the entertainment expectations of most race fans...

there is your decrease in demand.

so after last night, why not embrace the small venues that, because of sheer size, has built in demand? seems obvious that the short tracks provide great racing. asphalt or dirt.

there are very few venues that could pull off what roger slack and eldora did last night. but i don't believe you will see eldora removing seats to make the stands appear full.

jmo

 

[Mopardh9]

My thoughts on the whole Nascar thing is that they should visit the small venues, our local tracks a few times per year, whether it be in the truck series or the other top two tiers. It could be a different location every year or locations which would generate interest and ....and bring that local track much notoriety and $$$. Get that race on TV and these local venues become instantly famous, get Nascar to do this twice per year during good weather. As evident from the hype, the racing, and I'm sure the TV ratings , Eldora was a huge success. I'd be interested in seeing the numbers in what the Eldora racing brought in for the local economy, but I'd be willing to bet they were substantial. Nascar went with the explosion in interest back in the 90s, now it is time for them to get back to the roots, what brought them huge interest in the first place.

 

[TchainT]

Yeah I have to say that the tracks the currently dominate the circuit really are not fan favorites. I think at this point NASCAR is appealing to series sponsors and whatnot more than actual good racing product the fans enjoy. It has been proven that the unique tracks and shorter tracks are by far what fans and drivers alike want more of. How many people get real hyped up and excited about Kentucky, Kansas, California, Michigan, etc? They brought back rockingham for trucks and everyone enjoyed that. They did Eldora last night and everyone enjoyed that. I dont know, fans want the interesting or historical tracks much more than 7 different tri-oval 1.5 mile tracks on the circuit in my opinoin

 

[MRM]

It's not just in NASCAR, but in college football as well. You look at the stadiums in the SEC, most seat over 90,000 fans. But with higher ticket prices and less demand, most do not sell out all their games like they did 10-15 years ago.

NASCAR expanded to the point where companies that built aluminum bleachers were way behind on their work. They couldn't keep up. That's not the case today. More isn't always better.

 

[BOWTIE GUY]

Yeah I have to say that the tracks the currently dominate the circuit really are not fan favorites. I think at this point NASCAR is appealing to series sponsors and whatnot more than actual good racing product the fans enjoy. It has been proven that the unique tracks and shorter tracks are by far what fans and drivers alike want more of. How many people get real hyped up and excited about Kentucky, Kansas, California, Michigan, etc? They brought back rockingham for trucks and everyone enjoyed that. They did Eldora last night and everyone enjoyed that. I dont know, fans want the interesting or historical tracks much more than 7 different tri-oval 1.5 mile tracks on the circuit in my opinoin

To me nascar priced themselves out of the die hard fans pocketbook, what it cost to go to a race weekend is not worth what you get.

 

[ted@economy]

To me nascar priced themselves out of the die hard fans pocketbook, what it cost to go to a race weekend is not worth what you get.

To me , going to a race from Canada ,I'm looking at a $1,500.00 bill . Minimum . Gas,beer , two to three night stay , three meals a day , couple t shirts . Don't care if the tickets are $30.00 , $50.00,or $75.00 . It has no effect on my budget . That's the only thing Nascar has any input into , the ticket price . The big part of the cost , they have no input into.

 

[BOWTIE GUY]

To me , going to a race from Canada ,I'm looking at a $1,500.00 bill . Minimum . Gas,beer , two to three night stay , three meals a day , couple t shirts . Don't care if the tickets are $30.00 , $50.00,or $75.00 . It has no effect on my budget . That's the only thing Nascar has any input into , the ticket price . The big part of the cost , they have no input into.

Let me rephrase going to a nascar race is not worth what it cost to me anymore.

 

[Mopardh9]

Let me rephrase going to a nascar race is not worth what it cost to me anymore.

That's why I go to lower tier races now, gave up my awesome seats at Vegas, just got to be too much. Vegas week was costing me...at least $4k, and that is just a little gambling. It was fun, a lot of fun , but just couldn't justify going to Vegas for that amount of money , where I could go to all the local tracks around New England and see better racing!

 

[StandOnIt]

all the discussion about taking away seats at racetracks to create demand....

a couple of thoughts: most of those seats were added in the early 90's when the leap in interest began. throw in the fact that in many cities the local hospitality industry decided to price gouge out of town visitors beyond what the average race fan could afford, and along with racing that could never match the entertainment expectations of most race fans...

there is your decrease in demand.

so after last night, why not embrace the small venues that, because of sheer size, has built in demand? seems obvious that the short tracks provide great racing. asphalt or dirt.

there are very few venues that could pull off what roger slack and eldora did last night. but i don't believe you will see eldora removing seats to make the stands appear full.

jmo

Tell ya what, if Nascar signs a multi year contract with Eldora, there will be farmers all around the track with land for sale for development, and you know the rest of the story.

 

[carolinabuff]

This is why NASCAR should return to some of the outlying venues like Rockingham and North Wilkesboro. No they may not have all the amenities at the track or in nearby towns but they bring a uniqueness back to the sport. NASCAR isn't a big-city sport and I don't think it ever will be.