Jorge De Guzman
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Wild to see Harrison Burton ahead of Ty Gibbs and MTJ
It shows what it shows. PLayOFfs.Wild to see Harrison Burton ahead of Ty Gibbs and MTJ
I love it when it's out in the open what an upside down system this is. It is so bizarre a guy could theoretically win every race of the year, then blow a tire on the last lap of the last race and lose the championship.Wild to see Harrison Burton ahead of Ty Gibbs and MTJ
It's so mickey mouse, it's comical IMO.
It's so mickey mouse, it's comical IMO.
It's a statement of fact, are you having a hard time with that? The point was to look up three or 4 posts and see how the points have changed lol. Abra cadabera, Reddick the points champion is now in 3rd place.People that tweet this crap believe it’s really a big deal Larson didn’t win the regular season championship. He’s had one of the 3 fastest cars all year, if he doesn’t make any stupid moves on track and his team performs on pit road like they have all year he’s going to be just fine. There’s literally 2 tracks in each round he can win at, I’ll take those odds over some gimmick participation trophy. The only thing that worries me him going for championship #2 is well…sometimes he makes head scratching moves that don’t work out sometimes and you’re like “oh no”.
I'm almost to the point of rooting for Larson to be champ, just to hear how the Double haters will justify their position that missing Charlotte cost him the title.
What is the comical part to me is that you would expect that the regular season Champion to have the best record of points right? Reddick won with the most points...but don't look at the wins, stage points or playoff points.I'm almost to the point of rooting for Larson to be champ, just to hear how the Double haters will justify their position that missing Charlotte cost him the title.
Sadly, the regular season title is almost irrelevant. It only gives five more points than coming in second for the season. It doesn't do enough to give the winner a significant advantage in the playoffs. Is there even a cash bonus?Its still up in the air as to it costing him the title, but it certainly cost him the regular season points title.
What is the comical part to me is that you would expect that the regular season Champion to have the best record of points right? Reddick won with the most points...but don't look at the wins, stage points or playoff points.
Then we go to the reset. Again don't look at the wins the stage points etc. Now Reddick is in third BUT he is only 12 points behind first? Nothing has changed in that area but the playoff points added for the regular season, 15 for Reddick and 10 for Larson. With a wink and a mirror here we go lol.
Sadly, the regular season title is almost irrelevant. It only gives five more points than coming in second for the season. It doesn't do enough to give the winner a significant advantage in the playoffs. Is there even a cash bonus?
There are several changes that could be made to give it more value, starting with a free pass to Phoenix or a 25-point bonus. Until then, I don't see it as a significant accomplishment.
Larson scored more playoff points with two stage wins and second for the season than Reddick did for winning the season. It's nothing but another band aid IMO. People thinks this means something? Not much IMO. What is more B.S. is that Reddick is 12 points out in the hoopty doodle reset. He was at the top of the points, now he is third?Sadly, the regular season title is almost irrelevant. It only gives five more points than coming in second for the season. It doesn't do enough to give the winner a significant advantage in the playoffs. Is there even a cash bonus?
There are several changes that could be made to give it more value, starting with a free pass to Phoenix or a 25-point bonus. Until then, I don't see it as a significant accomplishment.
That's one reason I said insignificant. Winning the season should pay more than winning a single race. It should give the winner a guaranteed lead over the competition, an advantage throughout the playoffs.5 playoff points is not insignificant. It's the same you get for winning a race.
Or the potential to eat the wall on lap 2 like Truex did last night. I'll grant that missing Charlotte did indeed cost him the points guaranteed for starting and then finishing 36th. I'll agree that even one point would have given him the regular season title, regardless of what we think that's worth. Anything beyond that is wouldas and couldas.And the race that Larson missed had the potential to earn him 8 playoff points on top of the 5 he would have gotten over 2nd place in points.
People that tweet this crap believe it’s really a big deal Larson didn’t win the regular season championship. He’s had one of the 3 fastest cars all year, if he doesn’t make any stupid moves on track and his team performs on pit road like they have all year he’s going to be just fine. There’s literally 2 tracks in each round he can win at, I’ll take those odds over some gimmick participation trophy. The only thing that worries me him going for championship #2 is well…sometimes he makes head scratching moves that don’t work out sometimes and you’re like “oh no”.
One point would be a tie, Larson would need 2 points.That's one reason I said insignificant. Winning the season should pay more than winning a single race. It should give the winner a guaranteed lead over the competition.
Or the potential to eat the wall on lap 2 like Truex did last night. I'll grant that missing Charlotte did indeed cost him the points guaranteed for starting and then finishing 36th, and that even one point would have given him the regular season title. Anything beyond that is wouldas and couldas.
Larson scored more playoff points with two stage wins and second for the season than Reddick did for winning the season. It's nothing but another band aid IMO. People thinks this means something? Not much IMO. What is more B.S. is that Reddick is 12 points out in the hoopty doodle reset. He was at the top of the points, now he is third?
Larson has four wins to Reddick's two. I -assume- that's the first tiebreaker.One point would be a tie, Larson would need 2 points.
That makes sense to you. Where I come from the leader in the points is the leader in the series.Reddick was consistent all year, but hadnt been winning stages or races. And Bell / Larson were too good this year for Reddick's minimum stage points to matter.
Season-long consistency; there's an interesting historical concept...He's consistent enough to win 2 regular season championships in 4 years. And this year, he's averaged the most points per race by a solid 2 points.
Reddick was consistent all year, but hadnt been winning stages or races. And Bell / Larson were too good this year for Reddick's minimum stage points to matter.
That makes sense to you. Where I come from the leader in the points is the leader in the series.
So just to clarify…are you trying to say that Larson and Bell have been better than Reddick this year, despite Reddick finishing ahead of them in points? Where you ultimately finish at the end if each race should mean more than where you were running on lap 100 of a 300 lap race.
Season-long consistency; there's an interesting historical concept...
That makes sense to you.
The math behind the playoff seedings is accurate, and makes sense as defined in the current rules.That said, I don't like this iteration of the playoffs either.
Agreed.It was a broken system then, and if they go back to a season long format, it would need to be heavily tweaked to emphasize winning and stage wins.
And I have no problem with stage points. I see it as the modern version of the old 'Halfway Leader' bonus money. Just award the points and quit throwing the yellow at the end of the stages.Larson's season long consistency this year is because of his stage points.
I've thought from Day One that ten races was too many, too large a percentage of the 36-race season. Sixteen drivers is certainly too many, too much of the field. That leads to what some stick and ball leagues have, where the majority of the field advances and the regular season is pointless. Ten drivers maximum (five would be better), total points over five to seven races. No eliminations, no separating the playoff drivers mathematically from the rest of the field. Top drivers get an asterisk by their names indicating they're in the playoff, and points are scored the same as during the regular season. If you're in and wreck for the first three races, you're still in but if you can't dig out, you deserve wherever you wind up at the end.I think the way points are accumulated today is great. And if we had a 10 race chase for the championship like before, that would be better than anything we've ever had.
I mean I agree with what you say, my point is the regular season championship is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of this system and that the doubters are making it out to be more than what it is in terms of Larson missing Charlotte being tied to him winning the ChampionshipIt's a statement of fact, are you having a hard time with that? The point was to look up three or 4 posts and see how the points have changed lol. Abra cadabera, Reddick the points champion is now in 3rd place.